Audirvana stops end of first track UPnP: KEF LSX

Hello,

I have exactly the same problems as Tomah. Indeed, when using Bubble UPnP or mconnect, the same thing happens. From time to time the music stop at the end of one track. I also have just noticed today that everything is back to normal when I shutdowdown and start again the KEF LSX.

I had contacted BubbleUPnp support, and they had told me that this issue was known to them. They also thought that it was a KEF LSX issue.

KEF support just suggested me to make sure that I had the latest software version and that connections were OK. They don’t seem to be aware of the problem (or don’t wan’t to acknowledge that there is one).

Hi Tomah,
Hi RomainVZ,

After many tests and trials, I concluded to a KEF issue.
While attempting to contact KEF support, I had no answer.
Now, I use those speakers with direct cabled connections only.
For sure:

  1. I will never invest in KEF products anymore.
  2. Website testing those speaker (and delivering “5 stars”) did not rely on WiFi nPnP through a durable experience
  3. KEF uPnP implementation is buggy
  4. KEF support is useless
  5. I lost a lof of money with this product

BTW, KEF did not deliver software updates in 2020.

Of course, I will be pleased to hear about any solution solving this issue.

Good luck guys
Best

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Hello everyone,

Thank you all for your feedback which point towards what I was afraid of.

I will insist to KEF support, no choice…!

Keeping you posted,

Tom

I’ve been having the same problem with my LSX’s. This happened a couple months ago, and then it seemed to fix itself. Then today it started acting up again, first playing only one track at a time, then everything locked up. It would download a track from Qobuz, but wouldn’t play the track. I took the suggestion to unplug both LSX’s and quit and restart Audirvana. Now everything is up and running as it should again. Quick fix! Thanks Tomah!

Hello,

I’m experiencing the exact same problems with Audirvana + Kef LSX.
Is there any solution?

Gr.
Wietze

Hello @Wietze_Meetsma,

Are you using the latest firmware version available for your device?

Yes, I am. Just checked.

Can you send us a copy of the “Debug Info” when you have this issue? You can get it in Audirvana Settings>My account

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Note: By clicking on the Debug Info button, Audirvana automatically copies all its content, all you have to do is paste it in response to this message

Audirvana Studio 1.8.1 (10801)

macOS 11.5 with 8GB physical RAM

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 0 folders
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/wmeetsma/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 127.0.0.1 on port 50464

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Preferred device: KEF LSX Model UID:KEF LSX UID:uuid:5f9ec1b3-ed59-1900-4530-84171511966a

Selected device:
UPnP device at http://192.168.1.19:8080/description.xml
ID 0x0 LSX
Manufacturer: KEF
Model Name:
Model UID: KEF LSX
UID: uuid:5f9ec1b3-ed59-1900-4530-84171511966a

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
Volume control: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
Avoid RAW PCM streams: No
UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL
http-wavetunes:
:audio/x-ms-wma:*
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS
http-get:
:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS_320
http-get::audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO
http-get:
:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO
http-get::audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_320
http-get:
:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_320
http-get::audio/3gpp2:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/aiff:
http-get::audio/vorbis:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis+ogg:
http-get::audio/ogg:
http-get::audio/x-ogg:
http-get::audio/m4a:
http-get::audio/x-m4a:
DLNA 1.5: Yes
Gapless playback: Yes
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: No
Volume Control: scalar
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x0 0 channels starting at 0
14 virtual formats:
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 big endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 big endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length

0 physical formats

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: STOPPED
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1
Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 0:46:05
CurrentURI: http://192.168.1.86:49152/audirvana/audioTest.pcm
CurrentURIMetadata:

dc:titletestTitle</dc:title>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://192.168.1.86:49152/audirvana/audioTest.pcm

nextURI: 
nextURIMetadata: 
PlayMedium: NETWORK
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 SetAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentURI in AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData in AVTransportURIMetaData SetNextAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NextURI in NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData in NextAVTransportURIMetaData GetMediaInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus GetTransportInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentTransportState out TransportState CurrentTransportStatus out TransportStatus CurrentSpeed out TransportPlaySpeed GetPositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Track out CurrentTrack TrackDuration out CurrentTrackDuration TrackMetaData out CurrentTrackMetaData TrackURI out CurrentTrackURI RelTime out RelativeTimePosition AbsTime out AbsoluteTimePosition RelCount out RelativeCounterPosition AbsCount out AbsoluteCounterPosition GetDeviceCapabilities InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMedia out PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia RecMedia out PossibleRecordStorageMedia RecQualityModes out PossibleRecordQualityModes GetTransportSettings InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMode out CurrentPlayMode RecQualityMode out CurrentRecordQualityMode Stop InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Play InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Speed in TransportPlaySpeed Pause InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Seek InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Unit in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode Target in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget Next InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Previous InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID SetPlayMode InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NewPlayMode in CurrentPlayMode GetCurrentTransportActions InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Actions out CurrentTransportActions X_DLNA_GetBytePositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID TrackSize out X_DLNA_CurrentTrackSize RelByte out X_DLNA_RelativeBytePosition AbsByte out X_DLNA_AbsoluteBytePosition LastChange string TransportState string STOPPED PLAYING PAUSED_PLAYBACK TRANSITIONING NO_MEDIA_PRESENT TransportStatus string OK ERROR_OCCURRED PlaybackStorageMedium string NETWORK RecordStorageMedium string NOT_IMPLEMENTED PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia string PossibleRecordStorageMedia string CurrentPlayMode string NORMAL NORMAL SHUFFLE REPEAT_ONE REPEAT_ALL TransportPlaySpeed string 1 RecordMediumWriteStatus string NOT_IMPLEMENTED CurrentRecordQualityMode string NOT_IMPLEMENTED PossibleRecordQualityModes string NumberOfTracks ui4 0 1 CurrentTrack ui4 0 1 1 CurrentTrackDuration string CurrentMediaDuration string CurrentTrackMetaData string CurrentTrackURI string AVTransportURI string AVTransportURIMetaData string NextAVTransportURI string NextAVTransportURIMetaData string RelativeTimePosition string AbsoluteTimePosition string RelativeCounterPosition i4 AbsoluteCounterPosition i4 CurrentTransportActions string A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode string TRACK_NR REL_TIME X_DLNA_REL_BYTE A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget string A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID ui4 X_DLNA_RelativeBytePosition string X_DLNA_AbsoluteBytePosition string X_DLNA_CurrentTrackSize string

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 DMR-1.51 MS_DigitalMediaDeviceClass_DMR_V001 MediaDevices MicrochipCE2CY920_0xBD VEN_14E7&DEV_0001&REV_01 Multimedia.DMR QPlay:2.1 SeekOnPaused urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 LSX KEF http://www.kef.com/ LSX SP3994 94 http://www.kef.com/ 84171511966A uuid:5f9ec1b3-ed59-1900-4530-84171511966a 123810928305 image/jpeg 48 48 24 /BCO_device_sm_icon.jpg image/jpeg 120 120 24 /BCO_device_lrg_icon.jpg image/png 48 48 24 /BCO_device_sm_icon.png image/png 120 120 24 /BCO_device_lrg_icon.png urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /RenderingControl/desc.xml /RenderingControl/ctrl /RenderingControl/evt urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /ConnectionManager/desc.xml /ConnectionManager/ctrl /ConnectionManager/evt urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /AVTransport/desc.xml /AVTransport/ctrl /AVTransport/evt urn:schemas-tencent-com:service:QPlay:1 urn:tencent-com:serviceId:QPlay /QPlay/desc.xml /QPlay/ctrl http://192.168.1.19

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x0 LSX UID: uuid:5f9ec1b3-ed59-1900-4530-84171511966a Location: http://192.168.1.19:8080/description.xml

CoreAudio audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 0

Max. memory for audio buffers: 5120MB
Exclusive access: Enabled
Integer mode: Enabled

Local devices found : 2
Device #0: ID 0x33 Built-in Output Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:51 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1F,3,0,1,1:0 Model Name: Apple Inc. Built-in Output
Device #1: ID 0x3d ZoomAudioDevice Manufacturer: zoom.us Model UID: zoom.us.zoomaudiodevice UID: zoom.us.zoomaudiodevice.001 Model Name: zoom.us ZoomAudioDevice

Can you go in your device settings in studio an enable Avoid Raw PCM option?

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Seems to have fixed the problem for now!
Great, thanks a lot for you help.

Gr.
Wietze

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