Best music streamer 100% compatible with Audirvana

Dear Community
What is the best under $700 music streamer that is 100% compatible with Audirvana?

I was considering the Bluesound Node 2i but I wonder if the lack of upnp capacity is a major drawback.

I stream all my music from Tidal. I hardly have or plan to have HD files.

Thank you so much

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You can usually find used Sonore rendus at or below your price point. They work perfectly with Audirvana. You still will need a USB DAC or USB input on a preamp or integrated amplifier.

Mike
I have an old DAC/Amp Peachtree Audio Nova with USB and optical inputs.
So if Inunderstand correctly, the Sonore is only a streamer and no DAC?
Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Yes. Only a streamer. Check out https://www.sonore.us/index.html.

microRendu is discontinued, but specs are similar to current ultraRendu.

Let me know if you have other questions.

You could consider SOtM sms-200 Neo, I’m using it with Audirvana
https://www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/portfolio-item/sms-200/

If your DAC has SPDIF input, you may want to check out the Lindemann USB bridge.

It can also work as a streamer without the computer. You can connect to streaming services directly on the device and it’s controlled through the app.

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Thanks @bitracer …do you know of any options easier to find in northamerica?
I live in Mexico and I could buy the unit in the United States, but I see that Lindemann doesn’t have a US distributor.

Try Small Green Computer:

Thanks Stefano. I will look into this.

In your experience, am I going to lose sound quality dramatically if I just go for the combo streamer/DAC (like my original Bluesound node 2i idea?) and maybe forget about using Audirvana?----(No offense to the Audirvana team!).

I really want to keep things simple. Amplifier + Streamer/DAC sounds very nice, although I understand that I may not be getting a best in class DAC

So much I need to learn. I though the whole digital music thing was simple!
Thanks for this. I will look into it.

Peachtree DAC is about on par with the Node 2i. Don’t think you’ll find much improvement there.

I don’t own Bluesound Node 2i then I cannot say anything anyway I’ve heard good things about it.
But I can say that the Audirvana-SOtM sms-200-dac combo is a step forward compared to Audirvana-usb dac. Take care to analyze Bluesound app, it is important that you like it.

I´m thinking that probably it will make sense to try Audirvana+SOtM device but continue to use my peachtree DAC -at least as a start.

What interface is used with the SOtM streamer? would it be Audirvana remote app?

Thanks

You would be using USB and yes, you can control Audirvana using the remote app.

Alex,
Please tell me what you think of this…the way I do things now is, I stream Tidal/Audirvana using a 2010 Macbook Pro, and then send it to the peachtree DAC/amp via USB.

By doing this I can only get max a 44Khz bitrate even when I play high resolution files from my hard drive library or Tidal’s master files.

According to specs, the peachtree DAC should be able to deal with 96Khs bitrate but in my research I have read somewhere that Macbook Pros, only started being “high resolution capable” until late 2013 models.

Does this make sense to you?

I have already adjusted the MP Midi’s parameters to the max bitrate allowable (196Khz if I remember correctly) and have used the optical output, but it doesn’t change anything.

My DAC doesn’t have a display, so I am going with the bitrate that I see in the Audirvana interface. I see 96Khz coming in and I see 44Khz going out.

So far I have assumed that this is because my MP is not high resolution capable and this is what started me to look for a streamer.

Thank you!

What kind of subscription you have with Tidal? Could you paste the debug info here?

That’s not true. Macs can play pretty much any resolution, with the exception of DSD512 and up, as this would require NativeDSD drivers.

Yes! Where do I find it?

Audirvana Mac Version 3.5.35 (3565)
macOS 10.11.6 with 4096MB RAM

Registered to JOSE BERMUDEZ

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins ACTIVE in realtime mode
	AU plugin #0: Effect - Voxengo Marvel GEQ ()
	AU plugin #1: None
	AU plugin #2: None
	AU plugin #3: None

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: ON

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: /Users/perro1965/Music/HDtracks
AUTO: /Users/perro1965/Music/THE AUDIOPHILIAC MA RECORDINGS SAMPLER
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/perro1965/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
HRA-Streaming: Login failed
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Direct Mode audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 512

Max. memory for audio buffers: 1056MB

Local Audio Engine:
Exclusive access: Enabled
Integer mode: Enabled

Preferred device:
USB Audio DAC
Model UID:USB Audio DAC :08BB:2704
UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:Burr-Brown from TI :USB Audio DAC :14100000:1

Currently playing in Integer Mode:
Device: 2ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer, 4 bytes per frame 48kHz

Active Sample Rate: 48kHz
Hog Mode is on

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:
Local audio device
ID 0x26 USB Audio DAC Manufacturer:Burr-Brown from TI
Model UID:USB Audio DAC :08BB:2704 UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:Burr-Brown from TI :USB Audio DAC :14100000:1

3 available sample rates up to 48000Hz
32000
44100
48000
Audio buffer frame size : 15 to 4096 frames
Current I/O buffer frame size : 512
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: Yes
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: Yes

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x27 2 channels starting at 1
12 virtual formats:
1 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
1 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
1 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 32kHz
1 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
1 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
1 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz

12 physical formats
1 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
1 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
1 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
1 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
1 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
1 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz

Local devices found : 2
Device #0: ID 0x37 Built-in Output Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:82 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,1:0
Device #1: ID 0x26 USB Audio DAC Manufacturer: Burr-Brown from TI Model UID: USB Audio DAC :08BB:2704 UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:Burr-Brown from TI :USB Audio DAC :14100000:1

UPnP devices found : 0

Looks like you’re limiting it to 48KHz. Check in Audirvana if you have by mistake set the max sample rate to 48KHz. If not, check the system settings.

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