Can't play DSD tracks or ISO's. Plays but no sound slight hiss

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Still can’t get ANY DSD tracks or ISO’s to work. They play but there is no sound it’s more of a dull hiss sound.with both 1.0 and 1.1 and when choosing NONE: Convert to PCM…that one produces a harsh white noise playback mixed in with the song. It’s not my AV Processor that’s an Anthem AVM90 and it plays DSD just fine from my player. Works fine when I try and play it back via USB to my DAC but want to be able to play my 5.1 DSD tracks and ISO’s so only way is through the HDMI out and HIres PCM works fine…Not sur what else to do… Debug attached

Audirvana Studio 2.2.3 (20203)

Windows 11 (22621) with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Brandon Parker

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: \Frontwave\MUSIC
Library database path: C:\Users\Brandon\AppData\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 172.16.0.48 on port 49700

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 3290MB

Local Audio Engine: KernelStreaming

Preferred device:
1 - AVM 90 (AMD High Definition Audio Device)
Model UID:HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1002&DEV_AA01&SUBSYS_00AA0100&REV_1007
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{90af2fed-0a4b-4ad2-a2ce-73b132d34a4c}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Active Sample Rate: 96kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: 192kHz
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:1 - AVM 90 (AMD High Definition Audio Device)
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices
Model name: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus
Model UID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1002&DEV_AA01&SUBSYS_00AA0100&REV_1007
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{90af2fed-0a4b-4ad2-a2ce-73b132d34a4c}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Kernel Streaming capable

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: DSD via PCM 1.1

Device audio channels
Multichannel: 8 channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Oxff, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
Channel 2 mapped to 2
Channel 3 mapped to 3
Channel 4 mapped to 4
Channel 5 mapped to 5
Channel 6 mapped to 6
Channel 7 mapped to 7

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 8
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 8, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
Channel #2 :Stream 0 channel 2
Channel #3 :Stream 0 channel 3
Channel #4 :Stream 0 channel 4
Channel #5 :Stream 0 channel 5
Channel #6 :Stream 0 channel 6
Channel #7 :Stream 0 channel 7
8 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 44.1kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 48kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 88.2kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 96kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 176.4kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 192kHz

Local devices found : 4
Device #0: Speakers (Gustard USB Audio 2.0)
Manufacturer: Gustard
Model UID: TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_20B1&PID_3033&REV_0?1:&KS
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{3563cecf-253e-49fa-a5c6-6eae4a3b6e83}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x20b1
USB Product ID: 0x3033
Model name: Gustard USB Audio 2.0
Device #1: Speakers (SMSL USB DAC)
Manufacturer: XMOS
Model UID: TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_85DD&REV_0383&KS
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{6451594d-c6e7-44b9-a320-ac370cee5fb0}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x152a
USB Product ID: 0x85dd
Model name: SMSL USB AUDIO
Device #2: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Manufacturer: Realtek
Model UID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0897&SUBSYS_1022C950&REV_1004
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{7906dd2e-1971-4409-a166-e9b05bcd21b2}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus
Device #3: 1 - AVM 90 (AMD High Definition Audio Device)
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices
Model UID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1002&DEV_AA01&SUBSYS_00AA0100&REV_1007
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{90af2fed-0a4b-4ad2-a2ce-73b132d34a4c}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus

UPnP

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: AVM 90-42291E
UID: uuid:b83a635e-6e38-4b40-aa87-29e5d46c004b
Location: http://172.16.0.28:43709/b83a635e-6e38-4b40-aa87-29e5d46c004b.xml
Manufacturer: Anthem
Model name: AVM 90

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 1
Device #0: AVM 90-42291E
ID: DnsSd#AVM-90-fac24d1a6aa4dee449967e974abac68e._googlecast._tcp.local#0
Model name: AVM 90

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Can you please try to play to your device your DSD files using ASIO instead of Kernel Streaming?

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Tried that, no change though…here is the debug with ASIO selected…again it’s just DSD and it plays but all you hear is a slight hiss…

Audirvana Studio 2.2.3 (20203)

Windows 11 (22621) with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Brandon Parker

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: \Frontwave\MUSIC
Library database path: C:\Users\Brandon\AppData\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 172.16.0.48 on port 59087

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 3848MB

Local Audio Engine: ASIO 2
Driver version 2
Use max I/O buffer size: ON

Preferred device:
ASIO4ALL v2
Model UID:ASIO4ALL v2
UID:ASIO4ALL v2

Active Sample Rate: 176.4kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: 384kHz
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:ASIO4ALL v2
Manufacturer:
Model name: ASIO4ALL v2
Model UID: ASIO4ALL v2
UID: ASIO4ALL v2

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: No
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: DSD via PCM 1.0

Device audio channels
Multichannel: 8 channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox63f, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
Channel 2 mapped to 2
Channel 3 mapped to 3
Channel 4 mapped to 4
Channel 5 mapped to 5
Channel 6 mapped to 6
Channel 7 mapped to 7

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 8
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 8, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
Channel #2 :Stream 0 channel 2
Channel #3 :Stream 0 channel 3
Channel #4 :Stream 0 channel 4
Channel #5 :Stream 0 channel 5
Channel #6 :Stream 0 channel 6
Channel #7 :Stream 0 channel 7
8 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
8 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz

Local devices found : 3
Device #0: ASIO4ALL v2
Manufacturer:
Model UID: ASIO4ALL v2
UID: ASIO4ALL v2
Model name: ASIO4ALL v2
Device #1: Gustard USB Audio Device
Manufacturer:
Model UID: Gustard USB Audio Device
UID: Gustard USB Audio Device
Model name: Gustard USB Audio Device
Device #2: USB DAC ASIO
Manufacturer:
Model UID: USB DAC ASIO
UID: USB DAC ASIO
Model name: USB DAC ASIO

UPnP

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: AVM 90-42291E
UID: uuid:b83a635e-6e38-4b40-aa87-29e5d46c004b
Location: http://172.16.0.28:43709/b83a635e-6e38-4b40-aa87-29e5d46c004b.xml
Manufacturer: Anthem
Model name: AVM 90

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 1
Device #0: AVM 90-42291E
ID: DnsSd#AVM-90-fac24d1a6aa4dee449967e974abac68e._googlecast._tcp.local#0
Model name: AVM 90

4

Can you try without DSD over PCM activated?

5

Yes. When I do that it plays and I can hear the music but there is a almost white noise on top of it, much louder than the hiss I was getting with DSD over PCM 1.0 or 1.1 enabled.

6

I see you use ASIO4All. Do you have an external DAC or soundcard connected? If so does that external DAC or soundcard has it’s own ASIO driver you can download/install? I have had problems with ASIO4All in the past.

Edit: Sorry I failed to see that you use an Anthem AVM 90 AV processor. Forget what I said.

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Hi to all the readers, I am experiencing the same problem, my DAC is a Topping E30II, connected via USB to a windows 1o laptop, same history, DSD’s did not play at all, only the infamous HISSS sound, I also tried changing everything, and for the moment, nothing works

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I have no problems with Topping E30 (first generation) playing DSD on Windows USB and Audirvana. Did you install the ASIO driver from the Topping site?
Please paste your Audirvana debug info while you are having that problem, so your system and settings can be seen by the community.

Also, you may think you have the same problem, but the original poster who made this thread has a different setup (DAC) and different settings compared to you. Therefore it could as well not be the same problem and not the same solution for you both.
To avoid confusion in this thread, maybe it is wise for you to make a separate thread for your problem?

Edit: Sorry, I see you already made a separate thread. Can you post your debug info there?

The Audirvana team works during (French) office hours, so you can expect a reaction from @Antoine on monday.

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Thanks for your help, I am new with audirvana, and dont know how to obtain the debug info you mentioned, I really appreciate if you could tell me how to do it…sorry

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I will answer you on the thread you have made.

11

Thank you, over and out of this thread…my apologies.

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12

No problem :wink:

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Hi @Brandon_Parker,

We recently published an update of Audirvāna Studio, can you cehck if you have the same issue with the 2.2.4 version?

Other than that, do you know if your Anthem support DoP?

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Hi Antoine, sorry for the delay I was away last week. New version acts the same. I ALSO have a separate Gustard X26 Pro DAC and everything works fine when I output to that. Now the easy thing to say now would be oh it must be the Anthem but my SACD player sends DSD just fine over HDMI and my Anthem sees and plays that no problem. I hope so as that’s not a cheap processor lol. Even my previous Yamaha AVR worked fine with DoP. Converting all my DSD to PCM is not an option…in fact, I was hoping to convert all my PCM to DSF/DSD.

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PCMxx and DSDxxx via HDMI/(I²S) is a direct connection to the I²S interface of the DAC… DoP 1.1 utilizes a PCMxxx carrier signal with embedded DSDxxx signal that is extracted by the DSD processing of the DAC… The PCM carrier signal for DSD64 (2.8MHz) is 176.4kHz, the PCM carrier signal for DSD128 (5.8MHz) is 352.8kHz…

Nowhere in the Anthem literature does the AVM 90 show that it is DSD capable, However, SACD is inherently (2.8MHz)… The highest DSD sample-rate you can playback is (2.8MHz) based on the sample-rates reported in the debug info…

Your AVM90 debug info shows:

Showing DSD via DoP 1.1

My guess is the AVM90 is converting any stereo DSD via DoP 1.1 (if this is the device reflecting the DSD over PCM 1.1 report in the debug info) and direct I²S multichannel DSD64 (2.8MHz) signals from your SACD player, to PCM for output in the DAC itself…

This could be your problem:

:notes: :eye: :headphones: :eye: :notes:

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@Brandon_Parker … From the AVM 90 Manual section 4.2 “Audio Connections”:

HDMI Audio Inputs and Outputs

Digital audio sources can be connected using an HDMI, coaxial, or optical cable. These connections carry linear PCM and bitstream (Dolby Digital, and DTS audio formats).

:notes: :eye: :headphones: :eye: :notes:

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Interesting, Anthem also says the DACs in the AVM90 are capable of up to 32 bit 768KHz signals. Like I said I cannot understand why it plays 5.1 SACDS with no issue, on the screen it even says DSD 2.8MHz yet cannot achieve this with Audirvana. Tried all modes, Kernel, WASAPI, and ASIO. Is there a better way of trying to make it work with Asio ? Is there a different ASIO interface I can use other than ASIO4ALL? I thought IIS was a different format that happened to use HDMI connectors and cables?

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The display is most-likely reflecting that DSD 2.8MHz signals are being received, however, it is converting the 1-bit DSD streams to PCM in the DAC chip before analog output… The AVM 90 is clearly a PCM-centric receiver/DAC…

You have to ask yourself why does Anthem not publish the supported audio sample-rates and does not publish any information regarding DSD…

From the Wikipedia article “HDMI”:

For digital audio, if an HDMI device has audio, it is required to implement the baseline format: stereo (uncompressed) PCM. Other formats are optional, with HDMI allowing up to 8 channels of uncompressed audio at sample sizes of 16 bits, 20 bits, or 24 bits, with sample rates of 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 88.2 kHz, 96 kHz, 176.4 kHz, or 192 kHz.[5]: §7
HDMI - Wikipedia

Food for thought: The 768kHz DAC description is probably reflecting the aggregate sample-rate of 8 channels of 96kHz signals… 768 ÷ 8 = 96… This would make sense because the multi-channel CODECs it supports generally are 96kHz signals… Dolby Atmos is 96kHz multi-channel… However, it doesn’t mean the AVM 90 cannot reproduce higher-resolution PCM 2-channel digital-audio signals beyond 96kHz.

Contact Anthem and have them recommend the correct driver for this product and get the information about what audio formats it handles and the sample-rates it supports… Make sure you have the latest firmware updates for the AVM 90…
:notes: :eye: :headphones: :eye: :notes:

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