For the moment this is not possible but it has been requested multiple times by users and we are working on it.
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Unfortunately still happens but maybe less frequently - have tried with no upsampling and various Sox/rbrain8 options.
Seems far more stable since NAS has been scanned, but app just crashed out of the blue.
Is the full crash report of any help, part below?
Time Awake Since Boot: 1200000 seconds
System Integrity Protection: enabled
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY
Application Specific Information:
Assertion failed: (factor > 0), function rate_init, file /Users/damien/Documents/Dev/Audio/libs/sox/src/rate.c, line 304.
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7ac0eb66 __pthread_kill + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7add9080 pthread_kill + 333
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff7ab6a1ae abort + 127
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff7ab321ac __assert_rtn + 320
4 liblibsox.dylib 0x00000001011c4383 start.cold.1 + 35
5 liblibsox.dylib 0x0000000101191721 start + 7713
6 com.audirvana.Audirvana-Studio 0x00000001004c2c6a 0x100000000 + 4992106
7 com.audirvana.Audirvana-Studio 0x00000001004707c1 0x100000000 + 4655041
8 com.audirvana.Audirvana-Studio 0x0000000100786b2c 0x100000000 + 7891756
9 com.audirvana.Audirvana-Studio 0x0000000100433870 0x100000000 + 4405360
10 com.audirvana.Audirvana-Studio 0x000000010013c098 0x100000000 + 1294488
11 com.audirvana.Audirvana-Studio 0x000000010043360e 0x100000000 + 4404750
12 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff7aa84db8 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
13 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff7aa90395 _dispatch_main_queue_callback_4CF + 1148
14 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff52a9ac69 CFRUNLOOP_IS_SERVICING_THE_MAIN_DISPATCH_QUEUE + 9
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff52a5d43a __CFRunLoopRun + 2586
16 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff52a5c787 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 487
17 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff51d3cd96 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 286
18 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff51d3cb06 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 613
19 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff51d3c884 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 64
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff4ffe9a3b _DPSNextEvent + 2085
21 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff5077fe34 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 3044
22 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff4ffde84d -[NSApplication run] + 764
23 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff4ffada3a NSApplicationMain + 804
24 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff7aabe015 start + 1
With premature ending of some tracks I’m wondering if there might be a bug somewhere despite the whole track being buffered which miscalculates the number of samples until the end of the track resulting in Audirvana moving to the next track thining it’s finished playing the previous one when it hasn’t???
Hi @Antoine and @TheCat , I have the exaclt same problem. I’ve been e-mailing around and seeking support. My playback skips randomly during playback. It is quite rare on MQA but occurs every few tracks on TIDAL FLAC upsampling.
r8brain Upsampling to DSD512 and it does make a difference and for me is the central differentiator of this product. I please help with resolving this instability issue.
Regards, Ed
Current version: 1.6.1 (10601)
Connected account: xxxx
SIGNAL PROCESSING:
Polarity Inversion:
Globally: OFF
Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE
UPSAMPLING:
r8brain to DSD512 with filter type B 8th order
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 153.929dB
Phase minimum phase
AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF
LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: C:\Users\Dudu\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\Dudu\AppData\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite
Remote Control server:
Listening on 2601:2c1:c100:b290:e1a0:ceb6:5d14:d962 on port 50118
ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI
=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================
Max. memory for audio buffers: 7564MB
Local Audio Engine: ASIO ASIO 2 driver version 1106
Preferred device:
Alto-falantes (2- SMSL USB DAC)
Model UID:TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_85DD&REV_0206&KS
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{a179eedb-3a04-4d60-b06c-7ada0e903144}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Currently playing in Integer Mode:
Device: 2ch 32bits Integer, 8 bytes per frame 44.1kHz
Active Sample Rate: 44.1kHz
Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: ON
Selected device:
Local audio device
USB DAC ASIO
Manufacturer:
Model Name: USB DAC ASIO
Model UID: USB DAC ASIO
UID: USB DAC ASIO
14 available sample rates up to 22579200Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
705600
768000
2822400
5644800
11289600
22579200
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to MQA Decoder
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: Yes
1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 768kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit big endian in 8bit chunk 2822.4kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit big endian in 8bit chunk 5644.8kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit big endian in 8bit chunk 11289.6kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit big endian in 8bit chunk 22579.2kHz
Local devices found : 2
Device #0: USB DAC ASIO Manufacturer: Model UID: USB DAC ASIO UID: USB DAC ASIO Model Name: USB DAC ASIO
Device #1: XMOS USB Audio 2.0 ST 3004 Manufacturer: Model UID: XMOS USB Audio 2.0 ST 3004 UID: XMOS USB Audio 2.0 ST 3004 Model Name: XMOS USB Audio 2.0 ST 3004
UPnP devices found : 5
Device #0Denon UID: uuid:f05be2ef-fa90-12f8-0080-0005cd8c13bb Location: http://10.0.0.230:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Device #1Denon UID: uuid:848b0aba-21d1-1624-0080-0005cd8c13bb Location: http://10.0.0.230:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Device #2Denon UID: uuid:88ff9800-5109-1b28-0080-0005cd8c13bb Location: http://10.0.0.230:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Device #3Denon UID: uuid:044ecc9e-be0f-21fa-970d-9b704dcc080a Location: http://10.0.0.230:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Device #4Denon UID: uuid:277c28c3-dcea-1dca-cd3b-d17b88ae33e8 Location: http://10.0.0.230:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Studio has been considerably more stable in recent days, very obvious since it complete ‘fingerprinting’ my NAS audio files (over wi-fi).
Not 100% stable but much better, but I think it may be relevant, I’m unsure if this function if incomplete is disabled during audio playback - it would make sense for analysis to pause if other computer features are suspended for playback.
The issue with items ending/stopping early I initially considered to maybe be due to network issues (though other apps work ok). I’ve recently wondered if it could be due to an oddity related to calculating total track samples.
For example, if a track buffers and I see the complete waveform for a 4 minute track but it skips at 3 mins 20 secs, could there be an issue whereby the track is 4 minutes but either due to a metadata or calculation error Audirvana thinks the track has fewer samples to stream and thereby ‘ends’ as it should but erroneously early? Just a thought.
The same. It’s an error related to loading buffer/calculating time of the track. Try setting the buffer very low (500) and probabily you
will be surprised. AS will not load the entire track from the beginning and… and… IT WORKS! But other problems may appear…
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Oddly I’ve used version 1.6.1.3 for weeks and it’s been very stable with few glitches - upgraded to 1.6.4 tonight and skippimg straight away on local files at exactly the same point - I have to wonder if local file info is kept in Audirvana’s local database (which may be wrong if calculated via an older version) or if playback data is calculated on the fly at each play when the file is loaded? @Damien @Antoine
I’m not sure the debug info captures what is required.
Will try with a lower buffer.
It will be interesting to hear what happens if you use a lower buffer. I have had the same problem but it is very rare. It has only happened on few classical streams and is always the second track. If you start with track 2 or play each track one at a time it does not skip. This made me think it was some kind of time calculation problem. (Not encountered on 3.5.)
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Yes, it’s a time calculation problem. In my case the progress of the seek bar is displayed wrong, like the app think that the track has 30 seconds instead of 3 minutes. Maybe with small buffers AS can’t evaluate the “situation” from the beginning and play correct. Now I use KS, DoP 1.0 and no upsampling or VST. Seems to be ok.
I’ve been wondering if this might be something to do with available system resources as I often have lots of browser windows/tabs open at a time.
Much better with lower buffer size but not entirely without hiccups.
Has anyone solved the problem of always skipping the second song in hi-res? Lowering the buffer didn’t help either. It does it for me even after updating to 1.7
It seemed worse to me on 1.7 yesterday, hard to know, but don’t think AS is happy that my NAS share is not currently accessible.
Completely unstable now, I really have no idea why, even reverting to older version/reboot didn’t help. Disabled system optimisation too.
Could the AS database be corrupt if it stores file lengths etc for local files? That would not explain skipping tracks streamed from the internet though.
I just had this happen today streaming Qobuz through AS. The second track on the album “A Beginner’s Mind” by Sufjan Stevens skipped about 10 to 15 seconds into playing. Going back to the track, it played all the way through, so it might have just been a glitch in my case.
This did not happen at all with 1.6.4, and I hope it doesn’t become a problem with 1.7.
Hi, I’ve been on trial a week or so with many hours comparing this to Roon. I have read quite a bit about tracks skipping and I have it bad.
I like the sound quality a lot or I wouldn’t even be bothered trying to sort this out because I see numerous complaints here but no resolution.
Nearing the end of the track it will either
a) skip to the end and keep skipping track to track never fully completing any track
b) Replay the first part of the track again before proceeding to the next track
c) combinations of a & b
I have tried changing the buffer size from smallest to obesely large (I have 32 GB ram) and still skips.
I have tried turning off oversampling and this helps but does not eliminate the problem and oversampling does offer a small uptick in SQ so I will look elsewhere if I need to turn it off.
Downsampling is necessary for me since I have quite a few DSF files but my DAC supports only PCM.
I need to have output set to JPlay renderer - this is non-negotiable.
Please advise or I cannot purchase as intended!
BTW, on my system Roon loses to Audirvana regarding sound quality so I won’t be purchasing that software.
Is there somewhere other than here I can request official support!?
Dale