Less resolution and detail than on my phone. What am I doing wrong?

Soundmeow · September 21, 2024, 6:54am

I’ve been A/Bing Audirvana Studio on my PC (Lenovo Legion) vs my Samsung Galaxy S23+ and I find I’m getting lower resolution and detail on Audirvana than my phone. Scratching my head on why that is. I use Lorde’s Buzzcut Season as a test track as at the beginning the reverb of the piano notes can be clearly heard to bounce off a hard surface (or it sounds like that to me). On my phone it’s very clear but on my pc it isn’t there at all.

I use the same set up apart from the source. Same USB cables, same dac/amp and same headphone (Hifiman HE1000se). I even use iFi Silencer+ and I have a power conditioner so my PC should have a reasonably clean sound.

I tested on different upsampling modes and the outcome is the same.

What am I missing?

Antoine · September 23, 2024, 8:17am

hi @Soundmeow,

Do you have Dolby Atmos enabled on your Galaxy s23+?

Soundmeow · September 23, 2024, 2:46pm

I do but it automatically switches off when I connect the phone as a source. At least that’s what it shows on the phone. The icon isn’t highlighted

Agoldnear · September 23, 2024, 11:51pm

Please paste your debug information report here so folks can help the best possible…
It is found here: Settings–> My Account–> Help–> Debug info

Soundmeow · September 24, 2024, 10:19am

Connected account of : xxxxxxx

NETWORK
Status: available
Available network interfaces:
clareben ({103d2c3d-49a3-44a3-a8da-7027d3f7a7e1}) is PUBLIC
Windows Defender Firewall status for this instance of Audirvana Studio
Active profile types: all
Private profile:
Firewall: enabled
Inbound: blocked
Outbound: allowed
Notifications: enabled
Public profile:
Firewall: enabled
Inbound: allowed
Outbound: allowed
Notifications: enabled

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins ACTIVE in realtime mode
	VST3 plugin #0: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\TDR Nova.vst3
		ClassID: 56535454643561746472206E6F766100
	VST3 plugin #1: None
	VST3 plugin #2: None
	VST3 plugin #3: None

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain with Power Of Two upsampling
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.011%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: D:\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\Ben\AppData\Local\Packages\Audirvana.Audirvana-4118-9684-d80dbb7827cd_q3nymrkmej12j\LocalCache\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Local audio files fingerprinting
Tracks with no MBID: 415

Remote Control server:
Listening on 192.168.101.6 on port 63160

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as PREMIUM

APPEARANCE SETTINGS:
UI theme: dark
Font size: large
Language: System language
Show album covers in tracks list: yes
Source list sorted:
My Music
Radios
Podcasts
Streaming
Local
Startup view: My Music: Albums
Show local extended in source list: no
Use media keys: yes
Use media keys for volume control: yes
Use legacy Bonjour protocol: no
Number of paired remotes: 0
Remote pairing code required: yes
Screen saver disabled: no

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 11058MB

Local Audio Engine: WASAPI
Use max I/O buffer size: ON

Preferred device:
Speakers (HIFIMAN-EF400)
Model UID:USB\VID_2FC6&PID_F824&REV_0201&MI_00
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{2956443e-ff24-466c-b8d2-ad7fcc4dc804}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Currently playing in Integer Mode:
Device: 2ch 32bits Integer, 8 bytes per frame 176.4kHz

Active Sample Rate: 176.4kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:Speakers (HIFIMAN-EF400)
Manufacturer: Microsoft
Model name: HIFIMAN-EF400
Model UID: USB\VID_2FC6&PID_F824&REV_0201&MI_00
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{2956443e-ff24-466c-b8d2-ad7fcc4dc804}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x2fc6
USB Product ID: 0xf824

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

Volume Control
Physical: Yes
Virtual: No
Max volume alert: Disabled

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not automatically detected, user set to not MQA

DSD capability
Unhandled (PCM conversion) with boost gain of 6dB

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz

Local devices found : 3
Device #0: Speakers (FxSound Audio Enhancer)
Manufacturer: FxSound
Model UID: Root\FXVAD
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{6bcf3d1c-daf8-4bee-a658-d6a0400dc198}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Unknown model
Device #1: Speakers (Realtek(R) Audio)
Manufacturer: Realtek
Model UID: INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0287&SUBSYS_17AA3850&REV_1000
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{71acaca5-d8f3-467e-be11-58bb9ff30407}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Intel High Definition Audio
Device #2: Speakers (HIFIMAN-EF400)
Manufacturer: Microsoft
Model UID: USB\VID_2FC6&PID_F824&REV_0201&MI_00
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{2956443e-ff24-466c-b8d2-ad7fcc4dc804}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x2fc6
USB Product ID: 0xf824
Model name: HIFIMAN-EF400

UPnP

UPnP devices found : 0

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

Agoldnear · September 24, 2024, 1:48pm

This is an incomplete report… you have cut-off the computer OS and memory information… Please include the computer/OS/memory information.

Agoldnear · September 24, 2024, 2:24pm

Disable your plug-in and disable upsampling, so to get a proper baseline reference and then work from there… Reduce the playback pre-load memory allocation to 4GB… Also try using ASIO.

Soundmeow · September 25, 2024, 1:31am

Here’s the debug report with the OS and memory info. Also disabled the plug-in, upsampling and reduced the memory allocation to around 4gb. I can’t use ASIO. Doesn’t seem to work on my PC. Kernel Streaming works sporadically. Might be a driver update issue but I don’t know which driver to update.

Audirvana Studio 2.9.0 (20900)

Windows 11 (22631) with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : xxxxxxx

NETWORK
Status: available
Available network interfaces:
clareben ({103d2c3d-49a3-44a3-a8da-7027d3f7a7e1}) is PUBLIC
Windows Defender Firewall status for this instance of Audirvana Studio
Active profile types: all
Private profile:
Firewall: enabled
Inbound: blocked
Outbound: allowed
Notifications: enabled
Public profile:
Firewall: enabled
Inbound: allowed
Outbound: allowed
Notifications: enabled

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.011%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: D:\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\Ben\AppData\Local\Packages\Audirvana.Audirvana-4118-9684-d80dbb7827cd_q3nymrkmej12j\LocalCache\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Local audio files fingerprinting
Tracks with no MBID: 435

Remote Control server:
Listening on 192.168.101.6 on port 58666

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as PREMIUM

APPEARANCE SETTINGS:
UI theme: dark
Font size: large
Language: System language
Show album covers in tracks list: yes
Source list sorted:
My Music
Radios
Podcasts
Streaming
Local
Startup view: My Music: Albums
Show local extended in source list: no
Use media keys: yes
Use media keys for volume control: yes
Use legacy Bonjour protocol: no
Number of paired remotes: 0
Remote pairing code required: yes
Screen saver disabled: no

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 4134MB

Local Audio Engine: KernelStreaming

Preferred device:
Speakers (HIFIMAN-EF400)
Model UID:USB\VID_2FC6&PID_F824&REV_0201&MI_00
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{2956443e-ff24-466c-b8d2-ad7fcc4dc804}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Currently playing in Integer Mode:
Device: 2ch 24bits Integer, 6 bytes per frame 192kHz

Active Sample Rate: 192kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:Speakers (HIFIMAN-EF400)
Manufacturer: Microsoft
Model name: HIFIMAN-EF400
Model UID: USB\VID_2FC6&PID_F824&REV_0201&MI_00
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{2956443e-ff24-466c-b8d2-ad7fcc4dc804}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x2fc6
USB Product ID: 0xf824
Kernel Streaming capable

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

Volume Control
Physical: Yes
Virtual: No
Max volume alert: Disabled

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not automatically detected, user set to not MQA

DSD capability
Unhandled (PCM conversion) with boost gain of 6dB

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz

Local devices found : 3
Device #0: Speakers (HIFIMAN-EF400)
Manufacturer: Microsoft
Model UID: USB\VID_2FC6&PID_F824&REV_0201&MI_00
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{2956443e-ff24-466c-b8d2-ad7fcc4dc804}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x2fc6
USB Product ID: 0xf824
Model name: HIFIMAN-EF400
Device #1: Speakers (FxSound Audio Enhancer)
Manufacturer: FxSound
Model UID: Root\FXVAD
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{6bcf3d1c-daf8-4bee-a658-d6a0400dc198}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Unknown model
Device #2: Speakers (Realtek(R) Audio)
Manufacturer: Realtek
Model UID: INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0287&SUBSYS_17AA3850&REV_1000
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{71acaca5-d8f3-467e-be11-58bb9ff30407}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Intel High Definition Audio

UPnP

UPnP devices found : 0

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0