Max volume when I push the "volume down" key on my mobile phone

I am new to Audirvana and I really appreciate the audio quality.
I just find the interface not so intuitive and all the menus for beginners not easy to understand.
Main improvement should focus on the display of the song lists and the possibility to easily order by genre, artist, etc directly on the interface and not via the menu.

My main subject and concern here is that I am using the remote function with my mobile phone, an Archos Diamond Alpha plus with android and I had the very bad surprise, several times, to have the volume at the maximum while I pushed the “volume down” key of my mobile !!! very unsafe for my ears and dangerous for my equipment…Has it already been experienced? I don’t dare touching the volume on my phone anymore, neither on the application itself as it changes the volume very strongly. I would like that the application or remote DO NOT change the volume on my amplifier (I have 2x250W…) as it does currently.
I have seen the menu “VOLUME AUDIO” but I don’t understand because it seems to have no impact on the maximum volume. Also I tried to unclick “control of the volume by software” but it does not change anything. The solution should be there, no ?

I love this appli but it freightens me because each time I fear to have the max volume when I start it or during the listening (I am used to use the volume keys of my mobile phone…)…any help welcome !
Thanks

Bonjour @nico3182,

Le contrôle de volume logiciel permet de limiter le volume audio utilisé par Audirvana. En effet, avant d’activer cette option vous devez mettre le volume maximum que vous souhaitez utiliser avec votre DAC lorsque vous écoutez de la musique avec Audirvana. Une fois cela fais vous pouvez activer le contrôle de volume logiciel pour régler plus précisément votre volume.

Certains DAC ne supportent pas ce genre de chose, pouvez-vous m’envoyer une copie de votre “Debug Info” pour pouvoir voir cela? Vous le trouverez dans les paramètres d’Audirvana>Général>Debug Info

Remarque: En cliquant sur le bouton Debug Info Audirvana copie automatiquement tout son contenu, il ne vous reste plus qu’à le coller en réponse de ce message.

Bonjour

je viens enfin de comprendre que je devais vous répondre via ce forum…
Veuillez trouver ci-après le fichier debug comme demandé.
j’ai fait plusieurs tests et quelque que soit l’option que je choisis, je ne peux apparemment pas limiter le volume max, si je re-selectionne le volume max sur l’interface, cela monte le volume sur mon ampli au maximum.

Pouvez vous aussi me conseiller sur les réglages que je dois sélectionner, notamment la “memoire maxi” et les parametres de surechantillonage pour optimiser mon système?
Merci
Cordialement
Nicolas
Debug:
Audirvana 3.5.12

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX with device max frequency upsampling
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: by track
SW volume control: ON

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: C:\Users\nico3\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\nico3\AppData\Local\Audirvana\AudirvanaPlus\AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Preferred device: Salon Model UID: Salon UID:uuid:b0f21cfc-00fc-1cBB-b000-0009b0f21cfc

Selected device:
UPnP device at http://192.168.0.21:8888/upnp_descriptor_0
Salon Manufacturer:
Model UID: Salon UID:uuid:b0f21cfc-00fc-1cBB-b000-0009b0f21cfc

8 available sample rates up to 384000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
Volume control: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:
http-get::text/xml:DLNA.ORG_PN=DIDL_S
http-get:
:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS_320
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE
http-get:
:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_320
http-get::audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get:
:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_320
http-get::audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=48000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/L16;channels=2;rate=48000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=44100:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/L16;channels=2;rate=44100:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/l16;channels=1;rate=48000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/l16;channels=2;rate=48000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/l16;channels=1;rate=44100:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/l16;channels=2;rate=44100:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3
http-get::audio/L16;channels=1;rate=44100:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:
http-get::audio/wave:
http-get::audio/l16;channels=1;rate=44100:
http-get::audio/L16;channels=2;rate=44100:
http-get::audio/3gpp:
http-get::audio/l16;channels=2;rate=44100:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:
http-get::text/xml:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2:
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::audio/L16;channels=1;rate=48000:
http-get::audio/x-m4a:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::audio/x-dsd:
http-get::audio/l16;channels=1;rate=48000:
http-get::audio/L16;channels=2;rate=48000:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/x-dsf:
http-get::audio/m4a:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/mp4:
http-get::audio/l16;channels=2;rate=48000:
http-get::audio/aac:
http-get::audio/x-dff:
http-get::audio/aiff:
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:
DLNA 1.5: Yes
Gapless playback: Yes
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 2822.4kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 5644.8kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 11289.6kHz

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: NO_MEDIA_PRESENT
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1
Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 0
MediaDuration: 0:00:00
CurrentURI:
CurrentURIMetadata:
nextURI:
nextURIMetadata:
PlayMedium: NONE
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 SetAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentURI in AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData in AVTransportURIMetaData SetNextAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NextURI in NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData in NextAVTransportURIMetaData GetMediaInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus GetMediaInfo_Ext InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentType out CurrentMediaCategory NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus GetTransportInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentTransportState out TransportState CurrentTransportStatus out TransportStatus CurrentSpeed out TransportPlaySpeed GetCurrentTransportActions InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Actions out CurrentTransportActions GetPositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Track out CurrentTrack TrackDuration out CurrentTrackDuration TrackMetaData out CurrentTrackMetaData TrackURI out CurrentTrackURI RelTime out RelativeTimePosition AbsTime out AbsoluteTimePosition RelCount out RelativeCounterPosition AbsCount out AbsoluteCounterPosition GetDeviceCapabilities InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMedia out PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia RecMedia out PossibleRecordStorageMedia RecQualityModes out PossibleRecordQualityModes GetTransportSettings InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMode out CurrentPlayMode RecQualityMode out CurrentRecordQualityMode Stop InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Play InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Speed in TransportPlaySpeed Pause InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Seek InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Unit in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode Target in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget Next InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Previous InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID X_DLNA_GetBytePositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID TrackSize out X_DLNA_CurrentTrackSize RelByte out X_DLNA_RelativeBytePosition AbsByte out X_DLNA_AbsoluteBytePosition SetPlayMode InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NewPlayMode in CurrentPlayMode TransportState string STOPPED PAUSED_PLAYBACK PAUSED_RECORDING PLAYING RECORDING TRANSITIONING NO_MEDIA_PRESENT TransportStatus string OK ERROR_OCCURRED CurrentMediaCategory string NO_MEDIA TRACK_AWARE TRACK_UNAWARE CurrentTransportActions string PlaybackStorageMedium string UNKNOWN DV MINI-DV VHS W-VHS S-VHS D-VHS VHSC VIDEO8 HI8 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-R CD-RW VIDEO-CD SACD MD-AUDIO MD-PICTURE DVD-ROM DVD-VIDEO DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW DVD-RAM DVD-AUDIO DAT LD HDD MICRO-MV NETWORK NONE NOT_IMPLEMENTED SD PC-CARD MMC CF BD MS HD_DVD RecordStorageMedium string UNKNOWN DV MINI-DV VHS W-VHS S-VHS D-VHS VHSC VIDEO8 HI8 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-R CD-RW VIDEO-CD SACD MD-AUDIO MD-PICTURE DVD-ROM DVD-VIDEO DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW DVD-RAM DVD-AUDIO DAT LD HDD MICRO-MV NETWORK NONE NOT_IMPLEMENTED SD PC-CARD MMC CF BD MS HD_DVD PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia string NONE NETWORK PossibleRecordStorageMedia string CurrentPlayMode string NORMAL REPEAT_TRACK REPEAT_ONE REPEAT_ALL NORMAL TransportPlaySpeed string 1 1 RecordMediumWriteStatus string WRITABLE PROTECTED NOT_WRITABLE UNKNOWN NOT_IMPLEMENTED CurrentRecordQualityMode string 0:EP 1:LP 2:SP 0:BASIC 1:MEDIUM 2:HIGH NOT_IMPLEMENTED PossibleRecordQualityModes string NumberOfTracks ui4 0 512 CurrentTrack ui4 0 512 1 CurrentTrackDuration string CurrentMediaDuration string CurrentTrackMetaData string CurrentTrackURI string AVTransportURI string AVTransportURIMetaData string NextAVTransportURI string NOT_IMPLEMENTED NextAVTransportURIMetaData string NOT_IMPLEMENTED RelativeTimePosition string AbsoluteTimePosition string RelativeCounterPosition i4 AbsoluteCounterPosition i4 LastChange string A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode string ABS_TIME REL_TIME TRACK_NR ABS_COUNT REL_COUNT X_DLNA_REL_BYTE A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget string A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID ui4 X_DLNA_RelativeBytePosition string X_DLNA_AbsoluteBytePosition string X_DLNA_CurrentTrackSize string

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 1 60128 1.0 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 Salon http://www.pioneer-audiovisual.eu VSX-LX504 Digital Media Client uuid:b0f21cfc-00fc-1cBB-b000-0009b0f21cfc image/png 120 120 24 http://192.168.0.21:8888/oap-120x120x24.png image/png 48 48 24 http://192.168.0.21:8888/oap-48x48x24.png image/jpeg 120 120 24 http://192.168.0.21:8888/oap-120x120x24.jpg image/jpeg 48 48 24 http://192.168.0.21:8888/oap-48x48x24.jpg urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /xml/ConnectionManager.xml /Control/oap/SinkConnectionManager /Event/oap/SinkConnectionManager urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /xml/AVTransport2.xml /Control/oap/AVTransport /Event/oap/AVTransport urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /xml/RenderingControl2.xml /Control/oap/RenderingControl /Event/oap/RenderingControl DMR-1.50

UPnP devices found : 2
Device #0Blu-ray Disc Player UID: uuid:140479c0-58f3-1cef-84bf-a813746798ec Location: http://192.168.0.20:2870/dmr.xml
Device #1Salon UID: uuid:b0f21cfc-00fc-1cBB-b000-0009b0f21cfc Location: http://192.168.0.21:8888/upnp_descriptor_0

Max. memory for audio buffers: 4836MB

Local Audio Engine:WASAPI

Local devices found : 1
Device #0: Haut-parleurs (Realtek High Definition Audio) Manufacturer: Model UID: Haut-parleurs (Realtek High Definition Audio) UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{b20c5e80-2d48-45b6-89c8-72ae2d0c591a}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

@nico3182, quel modèle de DAC Devialet avez-vous? Utilisez-vous la dernière version du firmware de votre DAC?

je n’utilise pas un DAC Devialet, j’ai un ampli Pioneer VSX-LX504. Le DAC est un AK4458

Bonjour @nico3182, pouvez-vous télécharger l’application Mconnect et faire un test pour savoir si vous pouvez modifier le volume de votre DAC en UPnP?

I am having the a similar problem with the remote when using Audirvana to control the volume. Often times when first starting the remote application or changing albums, the volume setting on the remote automatically moves to the middle of the slider graphic which results in a huge and unsafe volume increase.

The volume control on the remote could also be much improved. The slider is too small and should be larger and more easily toggled. The volume control function should also be made to default to infinite db when the app is started or when changing albums as a safety feature.

By the way, I am using Audirvana with a Benchmark HGC DAC2 that has the volume potentiometer at 0 db to effectively bypass that device.

Hello @Chubby,

Thank you for your message and your feedback. We are aware of some changes that need to be done in the Remote app and we will do it in a future update of the Remote. For the volume issue, did you activated Software Volume Control in Audirvana?

Yes, software volume control is enabled and I have the maximum audio limit at 100% and volume leveling set to preserve album dynamics.

I hope you guys can get this ironed out very soon. The Audirvana software volume control is definitely superior sounding to a preamplifier volume control. It would be nice if the remote interface had a much larger volume control that is easier to precisely operate. A virtual knob at the bottom of the screen perhaps?

Before you activate Software Volume control in Audirvana, can you set your DAC volume at the maximum volume audio you want to use with it?

Hello for me this is much too dangerous and not acceptable for a “high quality” audio software. That’s why I stopped using Audirvana but I’ve lost 100 euros…
I’ve bought a DAC based on raspberry and using Squeezer, it works perfectly !
sorry that Audirvana does not propose more robust interface.
Nicolas

I have the DAC volume set to maximum in order to bypass the preamplifier

I would like to be able to use Audirvana with a DAC and no preamplifier

Audirvana > DAC > Amplifier