Premature track skipping 1.7.2

[TheCat]

I think I briefly had a period with 1.6.2 when I could playback without tracks ending prematurely.

Tonight having disconnected/reconnected 1.7.2 I’ve had track skipping from Qobuz and GUI freezes (track skipped to next after around a few minutes, but mini display was frozen displaying previous track progress).

Audirvana Studio 1.7.2 (10702)

macOS 10.13 with 16GB physical RAM

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins ACTIVE in offline mode
	No plugin active

UPSAMPLING:
SoX to DSD128 with filter type B 7th order
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5%
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66%

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 5 folders
Manual: (OFFLINE) /Volumes/AudioHD/
Manual: (OFFLINE) /Volumes/Public/…
Manual: (OFFLINE) /Volumes/Public/…
Manual: (OFFLINE) /Volumes/…
AUTO: /Volumes/My Passport for Mac/Audirvana
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/user/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 127.0.0.1 on port 59456

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Hi-Fi Sublime+
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Preferred device: NAIM AUDIO Model UID:Naim Audio UID:uuid:*

Currently playing to UPnP device at 32 bits 5644.8kHz
Selected device:
UPnP device at http://192.168.1.156:42089/cx.xml
ID 0x0 NAim
Manufacturer: Naim Audio
Model Name:
Model UID: Naim Audio
UID: uuid:cx

8 available sample rates up to 5644800Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
2822400
5644800
Volume control: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
Avoid RAW PCM streams: No
UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:
http-get::text/xml:DLNA.ORG_PN=DIDL_S
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE
http-get::audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get::audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3
rtsp-rtp-udp::text/xml:DLNA.ORG_PN=DIDL_S
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3
http-get::audio/aac:
http-get::audio/x-dff:
http-get::text/xml:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/aiff:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::audio/wave:
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:
http-get::audio/3gpp:
http-get::audio/x_pm_flac:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::application/ogg:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::audio/x-m4a:
http-get::audio/ogg:
http-get::audio/vorbis:
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/x-dsf:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/m4a:
http-get::audio/mp4:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/aac:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-dff:
rtsp-rtp-udp::text/xml:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/mpeg:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/aiff:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-flac:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/wave:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/3gpp:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x_pm_flac:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/flac:
rtsp-rtp-udp::application/ogg:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-wav:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-m4a:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/ogg:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/vorbis:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-ms-wma:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-aiff:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-dsf:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/wav:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/m4a:
rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/mp4:
DLNA 1.5: Yes
Gapless playback: Yes
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Volume Control: scalar
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x0 0 channels starting at 0
20 virtual formats:
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 8 little endian Signed Integer 2822.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 8 little endian Signed Integer 5644.8kHz finite length

0 physical formats

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: PLAYING
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1
Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 0:04:00
CurrentURI: http://192.168.1.227:49152/audirvana/audio_2.dff
CurrentURIMetadata:

dc:titleMetal Water Wood</dc:title>
dc:creatorTori Amos</dc:creator>
upnp:artistTori Amos</upnp:artist>
upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/ha/do/fh90qxjqwdoha_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
upnp:albumOcean to Ocean</upnp:album>
upnp:originalTrackNumber8</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://192.168.1.227:49152/audirvana/audio_2.dff

nextURI: 
nextURIMetadata: 
PlayMedium: NETWORK
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 SetAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentURI in AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData in AVTransportURIMetaData SetNextAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NextURI in NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData in NextAVTransportURIMetaData GetMediaInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus GetMediaInfo_Ext InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentType out CurrentMediaCategory NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus GetTransportInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentTransportState out TransportState CurrentTransportStatus out TransportStatus CurrentSpeed out TransportPlaySpeed GetCurrentTransportActions InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Actions out CurrentTransportActions GetPositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Track out CurrentTrack TrackDuration out CurrentTrackDuration TrackMetaData out CurrentTrackMetaData TrackURI out CurrentTrackURI RelTime out RelativeTimePosition AbsTime out AbsoluteTimePosition RelCount out RelativeCounterPosition AbsCount out AbsoluteCounterPosition GetDeviceCapabilities InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMedia out PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia RecMedia out PossibleRecordStorageMedia RecQualityModes out PossibleRecordQualityModes GetTransportSettings InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMode out CurrentPlayMode RecQualityMode out CurrentRecordQualityMode Stop InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Play InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Speed in TransportPlaySpeed Pause InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Seek InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Unit in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode Target in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget Next InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Previous InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID X_DLNA_GetBytePositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID TrackSize out X_DLNA_CurrentTrackSize RelByte out X_DLNA_RelativeBytePosition AbsByte out X_DLNA_AbsoluteBytePosition SetPlayMode InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NewPlayMode in CurrentPlayMode TransportState string STOPPED PAUSED_PLAYBACK PAUSED_RECORDING PLAYING RECORDING TRANSITIONING NO_MEDIA_PRESENT TransportStatus string OK ERROR_OCCURRED CurrentMediaCategory string NO_MEDIA TRACK_AWARE TRACK_UNAWARE CurrentTransportActions string PlaybackStorageMedium string UNKNOWN DV MINI-DV VHS W-VHS S-VHS D-VHS VHSC VIDEO8 HI8 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-R CD-RW VIDEO-CD SACD MD-AUDIO MD-PICTURE DVD-ROM DVD-VIDEO DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW DVD-RAM DVD-AUDIO DAT LD HDD MICRO-MV NETWORK NONE NOT_IMPLEMENTED SD PC-CARD MMC CF BD MS HD_DVD RecordStorageMedium string UNKNOWN DV MINI-DV VHS W-VHS S-VHS D-VHS VHSC VIDEO8 HI8 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-R CD-RW VIDEO-CD SACD MD-AUDIO MD-PICTURE DVD-ROM DVD-VIDEO DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW DVD-RAM DVD-AUDIO DAT LD HDD MICRO-MV NETWORK NONE NOT_IMPLEMENTED SD PC-CARD MMC CF BD MS HD_DVD PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia string NONE NETWORK PossibleRecordStorageMedia string CurrentPlayMode string NORMAL REPEAT_TRACK REPEAT_ONE REPEAT_ALL NORMAL TransportPlaySpeed string 1 1 RecordMediumWriteStatus string WRITABLE PROTECTED NOT_WRITABLE UNKNOWN NOT_IMPLEMENTED CurrentRecordQualityMode string 0:EP 1:LP 2:SP 0:BASIC 1:MEDIUM 2:HIGH NOT_IMPLEMENTED PossibleRecordQualityModes string NumberOfTracks ui4 0 512 CurrentTrack ui4 0 512 1 CurrentTrackDuration string CurrentMediaDuration string CurrentTrackMetaData string CurrentTrackURI string AVTransportURI string AVTransportURIMetaData string NextAVTransportURI string NextAVTransportURIMetaData string RelativeTimePosition string AbsoluteTimePosition string RelativeCounterPosition i4 AbsoluteCounterPosition i4 LastChange string A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode string ABS_TIME REL_TIME TRACK_NR ABS_COUNT REL_COUNT X_DLNA_REL_BYTE A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget string A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID ui4 X_DLNA_RelativeBytePosition string X_DLNA_AbsoluteBytePosition string X_DLNA_CurrentTrackSize string

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 QPlay:2 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 Nova Naim Audio http://www.naimaudio.com/ Naim all-in-one audio player Uniti Nova 20-004-0031 https://www.naimaudio.com/product/uniti-nova 423729 uuid:cx image/png 120 120 24 /LibRygelRenderer-120x120x24.png image/png 48 48 24 /LibRygelRenderer-48x48x24.png image/png 32 32 24 /LibRygelRenderer-32x32x24.png image/png 128 128 24 /LibRygelRenderer-128x128x24.png image/png 240 240 24 /LibRygelRenderer-240x240x24.png image/png 480 480 24 /LibRygelRenderer-480x480x24.png image/png 600 600 24 /LibRygelRenderer-600x600x24.png image/jpeg 120 120 24 /LibRygelRenderer-120x120x24.jpg image/jpeg 48 48 24 /LibRygelRenderer-48x48x24.jpg image/jpeg 32 32 24 /LibRygelRenderer-32x32x24.jpg image/jpeg 128 128 24 /LibRygelRenderer-128x128x24.jpg image/jpeg 240 240 24 /LibRygelRenderer-240x240x24.jpg image/jpeg 480 480 24 /LibRygelRenderer-480x480x24.jpg image/jpeg 600 600 24 /LibRygelRenderer-600x600x24.jpg urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /xml/ConnectionManager.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelSinkConnectionManager /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelSinkConnectionManager urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /xml/AVTransport2.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelAVTransport /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelAVTransport urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /xml/RenderingControl2.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelRenderingControl /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelRenderingControl http://192.168.1.156:80/ DMR-1.51

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x0 Nova UID: uuid:cx Location: http://192.168.1.156:42089/cx.xml

CoreAudio audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 0

Max. memory for audio buffers: 548MB
Exclusive access: Enabled
Integer mode: Enabled

Local devices found : 2
Device #0: ID 0x32 Built-in Output Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:88 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,2:0 Model Name: Apple Inc. Built-in Output
Device #1: ID 0x39 HDMI Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:88 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutputDP:1B,3,1,2:0:{AC10-4121-3034394C} Model Name: Apple Inc. HDMI

[TheCat]

UI just froze again - skipped to next track, time not updating:

[TheCat]

Also getting tracks restarting.

[TheCat]

Restarted, skipped with frozen UI showing previous track at time of skip:

[Antoine]

Can you remove the DSD upsampling in the audio output settings in Studio to check if you still get the issue?

[TheCat]

DSD upsampling seems to be an issue, was doing well with this turned off. Any ideas why if the streamer supports DSD?

[TheCat]

The tooltips are helpful, but is there an online guide for advanced upsampling settings etc yet?

On this page:

Audirvāna Assistance - customer support and community forum

The ‘here’ link is dead:

[Antoine]

The link should be back.

@TheCat

is there an online guide for advanced upsampling settings etc yet?

There is explanation on those settings on SoX website and it already has been discussed here:

Explanation For SoX Filter Controls

TLDR: 95.0% filter bandwidth (the default might be a little to high according to technical detail below) 30,000 filter length anti-aliasing 100.0% filter phase: 0 (minimum phase to prevent pre-ringing) Super happy up-sampling to 1411.2 KHz with a Denafrips XD. From the man page for sox. First the “presets” just to set some baselines: rate [-q|-l|-m|-h|-v] [override-options] RATE[k] Change the audio sampling rate (i.e. resample the audio) to any given RATE (even non-integer if this is supp…

[Antoine]

The issue can come from multiple things. It can be the device that do not let us do the upsampling and is made to do it internally.

It can also be that you are asking him too much with this upsampling setting, have you tried with DSD 64?

Or it can also be network related since you are using UPnP to send the audio to your device.

Have you tried upsampling in the past with this device?

[Jacob]

Hi Antoine,

I never got that.
If it is possible to play mastered files of the same higher resolution then the DAC is not the ‘problem’.

Whether this is an original recording, a remaster, an offline/online up/oversampling. If the data stream complies with the standards, then the DAC ‘sees’ no difference, does it?

What would be the reason that a DAC recognizes that the file has been resampled and that it prefers to do it itself? Unless something arises in the stream due to the resampling that the DAC does not ‘understand’.

[nfranzososind.it]

This happen also to me.
Can be the buffer size ?

Bye
Nick

[TheCat]

I’ve tried increasing/reducing buffer size several times and it doesn’t really make much difference.

I’ve never seen a warning pop up but does Audirvana need to be able to buffer the whole track (may need more for classical/other genres with longer tracks)?

If it does I’d expect a popup/error saying not enough RAM available to buffer and process a particular track.

The odd thing is that the track will play for a minute or several minutes and just end prematurely so can’t see it being the playback device.

Yes, I have seen tracks stop if I switch to another open app eg a browser with background music but I’d not be downloading anything particularly demanding if at all, perhaps reading a news page and have seen this on wired and wireless networking.

I often feel AS buffers a whole track but some error relating to playback length causes the track to stop early.

[Antoine]

Have you tried to completely remove upsampling in the audio output settings?

[TheCat]

Yes, tends to be more stable as does Sox (Power of Two).

If more complex/different upsampling causes issues it would be good to try to establish if this is AS or the streamer if the tracks initially play for up to several minutes then stop without obvious cause.