When sorting an artist’s albums in year order Studio seems to be using the date of the most recent release of that album rather than the original release date. As many albums have had multiple releases this leads to some very odd results with albums very much not in chronological order.
It would be much more logical to use the original release date, even though later releases may have slightly different content.
I guess you are referring to streaming services, I’m afraid their metadata don’t hold the original release date. Metadata from streaming services and big online shops are very inconsistent which makes them basically unusable.
No. These are CDs I’ve ripped myself. Other programs seem to get the dates right.
The metadata of MusicBrainz uses the “Year” tag for the date of the reissue, and not for the date of the original release.
Hmmm
The Overview tab on Musicbrainz has the original release date, and the Releases tab has the various rereleases. It looks as if AS is using the latest release rather than the original release.
This is an album that was tagged with MusicBrainz. “LA Woman” by the Doors.
In the very common “year” tag, MusicBrainz input the year of the reissue:
In the “original release tag”, it input the date of the release:
As AS gets its metadata from MusicBrainz during the analysis, it must be using the common “year” tag.
Indeed.
Can I ask @Antoinne to update AS to default to the “original release”. I guess there might be an edge case where someone has multiple releases of the same album in which case you might want them in rerelease order but that should be much less of an issue.
When people see such things, they think that it’s a bug, but it’s not. It’s just an indication that the integration of MusicBrainz’ metadata in Studio was not preceded by a serious study of how MusicBrainz does handle metadata.
A poor development planning.
I’d say it was a design bug rather than a coding bug. In this case the end result is the same.
In this case it’s an annoyance rather than a showstopper. Hopefully Antoinne/Damien can add it to the list of updates for a future release.
Measure your words please, it’s not because we do not use the original release date that it’s a poor developed software. Over reacting to things like this tend to make something little very big…
i can write for an hour here about that field…
i don’t stream, i don’t have any Music Drained preferences on…
and i make sure those 2 prefs are OFF in Studio pref panel.
Then one day a user here talk about that… Album music date release…
not year of all those tracks from an album, but the album release date
Then i realised that it could be helpful for artist like Frank Zappa who released
an average of 3 Albums a year… approx !
So, having like 3 albums in 1974 it would be fun to set them in order…
01-01-1974 as the first, then 02-01-1974 the second, then 03-01-1974 the third…
But Studio show you them first is not day you put…
second of the month show first day, third of the month shows second day…
ok, i can live with that…
The major bug i found FOR ME is that
Doing a fresh new database from start, all released date seems like all good…
EXCEPT what i found for ME…
all my smart playlists from 1970, 1969, 1968, 1967…
to the last i have 1947 don’t have a by default Year released date as the other date…
all others are ok by default.
1971, 1972, 1980, 1990, 2010, 2022 are OK, they have a released date that STICK in the meta,
but not 1970, 1969, 1968… 1947…
That is the major part of my All Albums!!! prog rock lover.
and with the not possibility to select all albums from one year
and just change that release date to default like 01-01-1970…
that suck big time, one album by one…
BUT the thing that must bug me, and i just did that maybe 5 TIMES now
for all those albums since i just got a 2 new hard drives to replace a full one…
i have to put that date again one album by album…
then i had to change that new hard drive that had a hissing sound to new ones just received yesterday… all those hours spend to put back released years from 1970, 1969, 1968, 1967 to 1947
had to be done again one album by one album
No, after you did them all. you save your .sqlite then return the next day,
all those from 1970 to 1969, 1968 to under 1947 year for my last album have to be redone…
the date release didn’t stick in the meta data… After two times it sticks in the meta… but don’t change your hard drive… you’ll have again have to do it… 2 times at least.
Could be done super fast, if Multiple albums can be selected at once
an apply a tag in one shot… Smart Playlist of 1970 year… apply tag 01-01-1970 for albums
of that year released in one shot… 30 seconds time lost,
against doing all 1970 year albums one by one… 250 albums… then 1969 albums, then 1968 albums…
At last, 1970 years and under don’t remember tag… i don’t know why those years, but,
after like 1971 to 2022, all those release date are OK. 1970 and under doesn’t stick in meta…
2 times minimum have to be applied.
Again tonight, all have been done… all are good,
except 1960-1969 those are my most albums with no release date appearing by default…
Yes i like my database to be perfect… let me sleep… maybe tomorrow will start 1969, 1968, 1967
Getting things to be perfect soon…
no, i always find a bug… Audirvana!!
Cher Antoine,
Je n’ai pas parlé de qualité de programmation, mais de méthodologie. Si le lecteur importe les métadonnées de la base de données de MusicBrainz, il devrait, en toute logique, appliquer ses conventions.
Ce problème de date n’a peut-être qu’une importance relative, mais lorsque j’ai essayé brièvement Studio cet été, il y avait d’autres problèmes, bien plus ennuyeux, qui étaient dus au non-respect des conventions de MusicBrazinz par le lecteur.
J’ignore si elles étaient réglées depuis, parce que cette fois-ci Studio m’a offert l’option d’ignorer les métadonnées en provenance de MusicBrainz.
Ce que j’ai fait, volontiers.
De quelles “conventions” parlez-vous?
La date est un exemple. Dans quel tag l’écrire n’est qu’une question de convention. MusicBrainz et Discogs emploient exactement les mêmes conventions.
Quant aux problèmes que j’ai constatés l’été dernier, j’ai un peu de mal à m’en souvenir, parce que ça remonte à pas mal de mois déjà et je n’avais consacré, à ce moment-là, que quelques jours à l’essai du lecteur… Je me souviens, cependant, que Studio n’identifiait pas des caractères de séparation entre artistes multiples que MusicBrainz écrit automatiquement dans les tags des fichiers.
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