Iām bootcamping this MBP with Win10, and it shows WASAPI and Kernel modes for the CS4208, but canāt seem to work with Kernel.
Anyone had luck getting it to work?
Welcomeā¦
Why are you adding another layer of software on the MBP architecture and APIās? The Win10/Bootcamp interface is not native to the macOS Core Audio architecture APIās, Why are you not using AudirvƤna macOS?.. The Cirrus Logic chipset is the system DAC.
As explained many times on this forum already. Running Windows on an Intel Mac with bootcamp does not add another layer of software. Bootcamp is simply a dual boot system and runs Windows natively on the Mac Intel hardware. Apple simply provides some standard Windows drivers to interface with the Intel hardware. The MacOS Core Audio Architecture only works on MacOS and is irrelevant here, because the hardware is running Windows natively and not MacOS.
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@AndyLubke Weāve been through this beforeā¦
Overview
The Virtualization framework provides high-level APIs for creating and managing virtual machines (VM) on Apple silicon and Intel-based Mac computers. Use this framework to boot and run macOS or Linux-based operating systems in custom environments that you define.
Virtualization | Apple Developer Documentation
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How do you explain this?
Yes it runs on the CPU (bare metal)ā¦ however, the platform hardware/software interface topology is not fabricated to support Windows nativelyā¦ The Apple macOS hardware platform is synergistically integrated through hardware software interfaces (APIās) that facilitate address and control of the hardware topologies that operate on core instruction sets (firmware) that are synergetic with the macOS they have been programmed to support. This core level of system topology is part of the unique intellectual property and design architecture that fundamentally makes the platform uniquely an Apple Inc, computer. This is fundamental.
The Core Audio reference below is from the Developers development archive:
Core Audio services are layered on top of the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) as shown in Figure 1-1. Audio signals pass to and from hardware through the HAL.
What Is Core Audio?
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Bootcamp is not a virtualization network. Windows runs natively on any Intel Machine (including Macs) when the correct drivers are provided. So yes on any Intel computer (even if made by Apple). Windows can even be installed completely natively on an Intel Mac without bootcamp. If installed that way (without bootcamp) the Mac is exactly the same as any Windows pc except for the Apple logo.
Again: There are no software layers added and MacOS is completely out of the equation because it is not even running (it does not even has to be installed anymore).
Yes we have been here before. This is basic computer knowledge 101, and I thought you got it the last time. But I am happy to explain it again.
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Noā¦ Itās as simple as thatā¦ Otherwise what is the value of an Apple computer platform? 
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An Intel Mac is hardware-wise internally exactly the same as any other PC. The OS and its including software are the differentiating factor.
Remember I was talking about Intel Macs. The newer models with Apple silicon processors are of course a different story. But since the OP is talking about bootcamp on an Intel Mac those are off topic in this discussion.
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And nobody has answered the actual question that @Nigel has. As he is a first time poster perhaps we can spare him the tournament.
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It doesnāt matter which āmetalā is on the platformā¦ If you noted the statement regarding virtualization you see that it is agnosticā¦ Windows 10 is a virtual machine running adaptation software to somewhat integrate with the Apple Inc. computer architecture, through the various APIās that are native to macOS software.
@Agoldnear, you simply do not know what you are talking about. I am sorry for the OP that yet another thread is derailed again because of your pointless off topic arguments. I will not discuss this any further because I want this thread to stay on topic. Have a nice day.
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The answer is to run AudirvÄna macOSā¦ and forget about kluging an incompatible OS on Apple hardware 
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I think you are not well informedā¦
Hello there @Nigel Welcome to the circus, I donāt have an answer for you but hopefully someone will soon or @Antoine will. Heās on vacation for a little while but back on July 21 I believe.
Best luck with it.
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I believe the topic of running Windows on Apple hardware has been address by the AudirvÄna team and you will find they agree this is not optimum in the context of AudirvÄna.
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@Nigel
This is your best resource for troubleshooting Boot Camp installs of Window 10ā¦
@AndyLubke It seems we have semantic differences in the definition of a āvirtual machineāā¦ I donāt think of a Boot Camp Windows install as being the same as running VMware Fusion or Parallels virtual machinesā¦ Ultimately, a Boot Camp install of Windows is not fully native to the platform hardware topology APIāsā¦ certainly Windows OS runs on the CPU metal, but Windows OS is being supported by and limited by the Boot Camp drivers in how and what they address specific to the platform hardware topologiesā¦ so in effect it is a limited machine in comparison to AudirvÄna running natively on the Apple macOS platform.
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I donāt know if you use Windows for more than just Audirvana, but an alternative might be to install a Linux version if you only use the laptop for Audirvana.
The Audirvana Core version for Linux sounds really good.
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Hello and thank you for all of your contributions to the thread!
I chose Win10 after doing experiments with MacOS and Win10 on an Intel Xeon 2013 Mac Trashcan and this MBP.
There is a long thread over on Gearspace about how Core Audio impacts sound, how Audirvana helps this, and how Win10 is preferred: āDoes Appleās Core Audio resample AD/DA signal?ā
I note that browsing on MacOS (Monterey) on the MBP will get the fans running, and Win10 runs leaner without the fans needed. I could go into this, but am going to ask you believe me as having been using PCās since the age of 7 and having an IT career. See also: HAL access has been limited after High Sierra, so Iām inclined to believe AudirvÄna will sound superior on Win10. Seems the gents building HiFi systems have concluded esoteric server/enterprise versions yield highest expression of audio in their $10K+ offerings.
Furthermore, Mac hardware is better integrated/quieter, thus coupled with Win10 it would seem the ideal listening experience OS.
At any rate, Iād like to get Kernel mode working with the CS but WASAPI sounds fine, and the beloved SPL Crimson works with Kernel mode, so a finer form exists. As a DAC itās such a value, having the same conversion as the Madison.
Anywho, thanks for all the replies and tension as that gives the discussion strength. Cheers!
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Why bother with an Apple Inc. platformā¦? If you are enamored with Windows running on Intel metal, why donāt you just install AudirvÄna on a barebones fan-less Intel platform? I think @AndyLubke is doing this, among other usersā¦ 
Iām 71 years old, grew up in Mountain View, in what is now called Silicon Valley a mile or two from Stanford Universityā¦ Alphabet/Google headquarters rest on what was once a garbage dump where my childhood garbage was dumpedā¦ I attended the rival high-school that the āStevesā attendedā¦ My first computer was a Sinclair ZX81 with 2K of memory that was loaded by an acoustic modem transfer from the headphone of my cassette player from cassette tapeā¦ Been an Apple user since Apple IIe and I have been involved with digital-audio since its inceptionā¦
My system:
M2 Max Mac Studio, macOS 15.5, 64GB RAM, AudirvÄna Studio 2.11.2, 8GB allocated for playback pre-load, AudirvÄna has extreme priority in playback.
Do whatever presents the least amount of friction and hassleā¦ The technology has evolved and is marching on ā¦ What once was, and what seems good enough today, will be questionable in the future. 
Digging the hero/heel dynamic since Iāve been watching WWE Legends biographies!
āENAMORED? I never said that, you dirty rotten lying @$#%&*!@!ā
Lol enamored is too strong a termā¦the Apple gear is quiet and better than most PCās in my experience, and itās what Iāve got. OSX does color audio in some ways, and there are a lot of peeved professionals grieving and loathing over it.
I was late to the modulator/demodulator party, beginning with a 2400 baud. Youāve got me there!
I notice Win10 sounds better than OSX when playing back audio in general. Seems that way with AudirvÄna too. Itās not really worth arguing over, unless thatās done on purpose for fun.
Since youāve got the heel role like Rowdy Roddy Piper, do your worst! All for good fun, tho.
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