Audirvana and iFi Zen Stream

Hello. Why does Audirvana 2.8.10 on PC/Windows not recognizing anymore the iFi Zen stream as it has done before (under iFi Neo but anyway it worked) ?

Mentioning that both devices, PC and Ifi Streamer are conected via ethernet (not directly by usb).

Thank you

hi @sorinlasus,

If you try to click on the spinning arrows in the device output list, does the Zen Stream appear?

Dear Antoine, no it’s not appearing. I used to have no problem in the past. The issue is new. I tought there is something in implementation with ifi since last update. Or it could be a local network problem ? Mentioning that Tidal connect over PC works an reconigizes iFi. Therefore deducted that’s an Audirvana issue and not a network one.

Can you go into the Audirvāna settings and in the My Account section? You will see a ‘Start Log Session’ button; click on it and reproduce your issue. After you reproduce it, click 'Stop Log Session’ and send me the audirvana_studio.log file you can find by clicking the 'Open Log Folder’ at [email protected].

2024-04-05 17:40:21.222 [error]: Audio file fingerprinter : error 400 : Bad Request
2024-04-05 17:40:22.630 [error]: Audio file fingerprinter : error 400 : Bad Request
2024-04-05 17:40:24.422 [error]: Audio file fingerprinter : error 400 : Bad Request
2024-04-05 17:40:25.254 [error]: Audio file fingerprinter : error 400 : Bad Request
2024-04-05 17:40:54.657 [info]: UPnP stack initialized using specified interface: {1A128A07-C0B5-45A1-BE6B-1C26B182C763}
2024-04-05 17:40:54.876 [info]: UPnP web server started on 192.168.1.141:49152
2024-04-05 17:41:02.622 [info]: UPnP stack initialized using specified interface: {162666A9-2B9B-44B4-8AEC-46EAE9D43772}
2024-04-05 17:41:02.840 [info]: UPnP web server started on 192.168.1.143:49152
2024-04-05 17:43:16.110 [error]: Audio file fingerprinter : error 413 : Payload Too Large
2024-04-05 17:43:17.490 [error]: Audio file fingerprinter : error 413 : Payload Too Large
2024-04-05 17:43:18.724 [error]: Audio file fingerprinter : error 413 : Payload Too Large
2024-04-05 17:43:19.933 [error]: Audio file fingerprinter : error 413 : Payload Too Large
2024-04-05 17:47:37.714 [error]: AudioFileLoader: Error -1072875836 opening media foundation file: file://C:\Users\Sorin Lasuschevici\Personal Media Pictures & Music\muzica\11. CRAP (VIDEO)\David Gilmour - Comfortably Numb Live in Pompeii.mp4

Please send me the file audirvana_studio.log file at [email protected] so I can review it :slight_smile:

Problem with Audirvana recognizing the ifi Zen stream.
Has this problem been solved in the meantime?

Hi @RC23,

Do you get this behavior with the latest version of Audirvāna Studio?

I can’t say yet because I bought Audirvana yesterday. The music PC will be built over Christmas and I’ll buy the ifi Zen Streamer this week. Can I do a first function test of Audirvana with the Zen Streamer alone , i.e. without the PC?

You need to have a computer, whether it’s a macOS, Windows , Linux or a NAS to use Audirvāna.

Can I install Audirvana on two end devices?

Then I would install Audirvana on my Windows notebook for the functional test. Later, when the music PC is ready - also Windows - I would also install Audirvana there a second time.

You can but only one installation can be activated.

You can install Audirvāna on any device you want. The only restriction we have is you can connect your account on one computer at the same time.

Ok, then the first Audirvana instance on the notebook is for testing and the second Audirvana instance on the music PC will be activated later. That should work.

If the hardware ID of the PC or notebook is automatically adopted during the Audirvana setup, it does not work. I’m not quite sure.

I suspect Audiravana uses a switch to activate the license. After deactivation, I can transfer the license to another computer.

No. It uses a cloud service to check credentials and it detects when you logged into another computer, warns you and logs you out when you log in to another PC. You can install an infinite number of Audirvana software installations, but only one can be active at the time.

Thanks for the good explanation. I bought a used ifi Zen Stream today. When it arrives, it will get its update first and then I’ll continue.

Dear RC23. No, it’s not solved ! Audirvana does not recognise ifi zen stream over upnp anymore.

knowing thet it woked in the past properly (assimilating ifi zen stream with ifi neo) it’s frustrating that it’s no more an option.

that’s why I’m asked Antoine if they will integrate ifi zen stream device

thanks

regards
Sorin

ifi advertises that Audirvana works with ifi devices. And it did work.

Then the problem is probably due to a software update at Audirvana or at ifi for the Zen Stream.

Sorin, do you use Android or iOS for music control? Is this where the problem lies? I will be using a tablet with Android 11 (Samsung Tab A7) and a smartphone with Android 14 (Xiaomi Hyper OS).

In my case, the music is stored on a SanDisk Extreme PRO USB stick as a file with 44 or 88 kHz sample rate.

I will use two music chains.

One in the living room will be a music PC plus audio interface plus active loudspeakers.

The other music chain in living room #2 consists of the ifi Zen Stream, a USB DAC (Gustard A20H) plus active loudspeakers.

What does your configuration look like? Does the music come to you via WLAN? In my case it is stored locally on the USB stick.

Has Antoine looked at the audirvana_studio.log file? See above in the thread. If so, was there a result or were there any queries from Antoine?

Often it is small things that cause the problem. You just have to search systematically for the problem in order to be able to offer a solution.

Kind regards

Rüdiger (Roger in France)