Hi, I just bought a Korg DS-DAC-10R and tried to use it with Audirvana 3.5.50 (3580) on Mac Sonoma. Although I can reproduce any PCM content, Audirvana recognises this DAC as a No DSD DAC.
If I use this DAC with any other player like VOX or Audiogate, it works perfectly with the same DSD material (the frequency is not the issue here).
Does anyone experienced similar issue?
Does the latest version of Audirvana work in DSD with the Korg DS-DAC-10R, in which case I might think of upgrading?
Thanks
Audirvana 3.5 should work in DSD with the Korg. Some more information is needed (Mac or Windows, memory, OS version etc.). Please post your Audirvana Debug Info here.
One thing to try if in Windows: Did you install the ASIO Driver from Korg and did you choose ASIO output in Audirvana?
Or use option dsd over pcm 1.1 instead of auto detect…
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Thanks, Macbook pro 13 M1 8Gb OS 14.2.1
Audirvana Mac Version 3.5.50 (3580)
macOS 14.2.1 with 8192MB RAM
Registered to M CANONICO
SIGNAL PROCESSING:
Polarity Inversion:
Globally: OFF
Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE
UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66
AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF
LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: /Users/michelangelocanonico/Music/Music/HDTracks
iTunes/Music library synchronization: last synchronized on Wed Dec 20 18:24:45 2023
Library database path: /Users/michelangelocanonico/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite
ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================
CoreAudio audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 512
Max. memory for audio buffers: 5120MB
Local Audio Engine:
Exclusive access: Enabled
Integer mode: Enabled
Preferred device:
KORG 2ch 1bit Audio Device
Model UID:KORG 2ch 1bit Audio Device:0944:0208
UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:KORG INC.:DS-DAC-10R:100000:1,2
Currently playing in Integer Mode:
Device: 2ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer, 8 bytes per frame 352.8kHz
Active Sample Rate: 352.8kHz
Hog Mode is on
Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF
Selected device:
Local audio device
ID 0x73 KORG 2ch 1bit Audio Device Manufacturer:KORG INC.
Model UID:KORG 2ch 1bit Audio Device:0944:0208 UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:KORG INC.:DS-DAC-10R:100000:1,2
7 available sample rates up to 352800Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
Audio buffer frame size : 106 to 4096 frames
Current I/O buffer frame size : 512
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: Yes
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: No
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: Yes
1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
Stream ID 0x74 2 channels starting at 1
28 virtual formats:
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
42 physical formats
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
Local devices found : 5
Device #0: ID 0x73 KORG 2ch 1bit Audio Device Manufacturer: KORG INC. Model UID: KORG 2ch 1bit Audio Device:0944:0208 UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:KORG INC.:DS-DAC-10R:100000:1,2
Device #1: ID 0x4d MacBook Pro Speakers Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: Speaker UID: BuiltInSpeakerDevice
Device #2: ID 0x62 Microsoft Teams Audio Manufacturer: Microsoft Corp. Model UID: MSLoopbackDriverDevice_ModelUID UID: MSLoopbackDriverDevice_UID
Device #3: ID 0x5d NDI Audio Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: SimpleAudioDeviceModelUID UID: NDIAudio
Device #4: ID 0x6c SoundID Reference Manufacturer: Sonarworks Model UID: SoundIDReference_ModelUID UID: SoundIDReference_DeviceUID
UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x0 LSX garden UID: uuid:5f9ec1b3-ed59-1900-4530-841715026210 Location: http://192.168.1.85:8080/description.xml
Thanks; the reason why I am using the Korg is to use DSD without converting it through PCM, otherwise I would use my RME or Qutest with no issue.
I didn’t, but I am not sure ASIO works with Mac OS though
Hi all, selecting the DSD option over PCM, and it works! I’m not sure what that means; I want to be sure there is no conversion into PCM to listen to a native form of DSD.
DSD over PCM (DoP) does not convert to PCM. I know the naming can be a bit confusing, but rest assured: the result is still pure DSD. PCM is only used as a ‘carrier’ to transport the DSD signal to your DAC. Your DAC will recognize this as DSD and will play it as such. On a Mac (and Windows without an ASIO driver) this is the only way to send DSD to a DAC. Because MacOS and (standard) Windows do not recognize the native DSD format they have to be ‘fooled’ into sending PCM. Probably the Audiogate program (which is made by Korg as well) does a better job of hiding this, but when on a Mac it surely uses DoP too.
To make a long story short: You can be sure there is no conversion to PCM.
To learn more about DoP see the following links:
DSD over PCM (DoP) | Audiopraise
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Many thanks for the detailed explanation
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