Audirvana not seeing Unison USB Yaggdrasil

boleary · January 22, 2021, 2:31am

Though the PC sees the DAC in Windows Device manager (W10 Pro) and it says its working it isn’t showing up as an output option in Audirvana. Help appreciated. Here’s the debug info:
Audirvana 3.5.43

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: ON

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 5 folders
Manual: (OFFLINE) E:\Music\Music\Music
AUTO: C:\Users\Brian\Music
AUTO: F:\Music II
AUTO: F:\Music\Music\Music
Manual: (OFFLINE) Z:\Billie Eilish - 2020-08 - Tiny Desk (Home) Concert
Library database path: C:\Users\Brian\Desktop\AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Preferred device: Audio Renderer-92 Model UID:ABC-PCB Audio Renderer-92 UID:uuid:0280AD230315-Audio Renderer

Selected device:
UPnP device at http://10.0.0.92:49152/amr.xml
Audio Renderer-92 Manufacturer:ABC-PCB
Model UID:ABC-PCB Audio Renderer-92 UID:uuid:0280AD230315-Audio Renderer

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
Volume control: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::audio/mpeg3:
http-get::audio/mp3:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/aiff:
http-get::audio/aac:
http-get::audio/mp4:
http-get::audio/m4a:
http-get::audio/dsd
http-get::audio/dsf
http-get:*:audio/dff
DLNA 1.5: No
Gapless playback: Yes
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 2822.4kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 5644.8kHz

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: STOPPED
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1
Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 00:08:27
CurrentURI:
CurrentURIMetadata:
nextURI:
nextURIMetadata:
PlayMedium: NETWORK
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 Play InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Speed in TransportPlaySpeed Stop InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Next InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Previous InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID SetNextAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NextURI in NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData in NextAVTransportURIMetaData GetMediaInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus GetDeviceCapabilities InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMedia out PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia RecMedia out PossibleRecordStorageMedia RecQualityModes out PossibleRecordQualityModes SetAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentURI in AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData in AVTransportURIMetaData SetPlayMode InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NewPlayMode in CurrentPlayMode GetCurrentTransportActions InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Actions out CurrentTransportActions GetTransportSettings InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMode out CurrentPlayMode RecQualityMode out CurrentRecordQualityMode GetTransportInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentTransportState out TransportState CurrentTransportStatus out TransportStatus CurrentSpeed out TransportPlaySpeed Pause InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Seek InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Unit in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode Target in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget GetPositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Track out CurrentTrack TrackDuration out CurrentTrackDuration TrackMetaData out CurrentTrackMetaData TrackURI out CurrentTrackURI RelTime out RelativeTimePosition AbsTime out AbsoluteTimePosition RelCount out RelativeCounterPosition AbsCount out AbsoluteCounterPosition CurrentPlayMode string NORMAL REPEAT_ALL INTRO NORMAL RecordStorageMedium string UNKNOWN DV MINI-DV VHS W-VHS S-VHS D-VHS VHSC VIDEO8 HI8 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-R CD-RW VIDEO-CD SACD MD-AUDIO MD-PICTURE DVD-ROM DVD-VIDEO DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW DVD-RAM DVD-AUDIO DAT LD HDD MICRO-MV NETWORK NONE NOT_IMPLEMENTED vendor-defined LastChange string RelativeTimePosition string CurrentTrackURI string CurrentTrackDuration string CurrentRecordQualityMode string 0:EP 1:LP 2:SP 0:BASIC 1:MEDIUM 2:HIGH NOT_IMPLEMENTED vendor-defined CurrentMediaDuration string AbsoluteCounterPosition i4 RelativeCounterPosition i4 A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID ui4 AVTransportURI string TransportState string STOPPED PAUSED_PLAYBACK PAUSED_RECORDING PLAYING RECORDING TRANSITIONING NO_MEDIA_PRESENT CurrentTrackMetaData string NextAVTransportURI string PossibleRecordQualityModes string CurrentTrack ui4 0 4294967295 1 AbsoluteTimePosition string NextAVTransportURIMetaData string PlaybackStorageMedium string UNKNOWN DV MINI-DV VHS W-VHS S-VHS D-VHS VHSC VIDEO8 HI8 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-R CD-RW VIDEO-CD SACD MD-AUDIO MD-PICTURE DVD-ROM DVD-VIDEO DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW DVD-RAM DVD-AUDIO DAT LD HDD MICRO-MV NETWORK NONE NOT_IMPLEMENTED vendor-defined CurrentTransportActions string RecordMediumWriteStatus string WRITABLE PROTECTED NOT_WRITABLE UNKNOWN NOT_IMPLEMENTED PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia string AVTransportURIMetaData string NumberOfTracks ui4 0 4294967295 A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode string ABS_TIME REL_TIME ABS_COUNT REL_COUNT TRACK_NR CHANNEL_FREQ TAPE-INDEX FRAME A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget string PossibleRecordStorageMedia string TransportStatus string OK ERROR_OCCURRED vendor-defined TransportPlaySpeed string 1 vendor-defined

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 http://10.0.0.92:49152/ urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 Audio Renderer-92 ABC-PCB http://www.abc-pcb.ch MR-MOD MR-MOD 1.0 http://www.abc-pcb.ch 0280AD230315 uuid:0280AD230315-Audio Renderer 123456789 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl1 rcscpd.xml /upnp/control/RenderingControl /upnp/event/RenderingControl urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport1 avtscpd.xml /upnp/control/AVTransport /upnp/event/AVTransport urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager1 cmscpd.xml /upnp/control/ConnectionManager /upnp/event/ConnectionManager /index.html

UPnP devices found : 3
Device #0TSR-5790 D0BDC2 UID: uuid:9ab0c000-f668-11de-9976-00a0ded0bdc2 Location: http://10.0.0.143:49154/MediaRenderer/desc.xml
Device #1Audio Renderer-92 UID: uuid:0280AD230315-Audio Renderer Location: http://10.0.0.92:49152/amr.xml
Device #2[LG] webOS TV UM7300AUE UID: uuid:2a1e59a7-12a1-c54e-3e04-837cf17fff51 Location: http://10.0.0.158:2021/

Max. memory for audio buffers: 7064MB

Local Audio Engine:ASIO 0 driver version 0

Local devices found : 0

Antoine · January 22, 2021, 7:56am

Hello,

Can you check your firewall settings: In Settings > Update and Security > Windows Security > Firewall and Network Protection > Allow an application through firewall, make sure that Audirvana is allowed to access the network.

bitracer · January 22, 2021, 8:22am

Have you installed the USB driver?

boleary · January 25, 2021, 8:29pm

Sorry about the late reply. Having made sure all drivers were updated and having the problem persist we went ahead and reinstalled W10, again updated all the drivers and still have the same problem: Audirvana sees my network player ( original Sonore Series Signature Rendu (SPDIF HDMI/BNC) but it does not see the USB Yggy as an output option. However, though Windows sees the Yggy as a sound device, in Device Manager,where it says this device is working properly, Windows does not see the Yggy as an output device in the “Sound” field in Control Panel, where it says no sound devices are connected! I am not at all computer savvy

but this seems really crazy. Any thoughts/help very much appreciated.

bitracer · January 26, 2021, 9:49am

It looks more like a Signature Rendu issue with Yggy. Yggy uses a custom USB controller that might not work that well with Rendu.

You need to select the Rendu when playing through the bridge.

boleary · January 27, 2021, 1:31pm

Bitracer, I’m not understanding your response. When I connect the Yggy to a USB port on the PC the Signature Rendu is out of the chain as it is connected to the Yggy via SPDIF/BNC, though it remains as a network option in Audirvana; however both Windows, as described above, and Audirvana do not see the Yggy as an output device. If I plug the Yggy into my laptop via USB, which also sees the Signature Renbdu as a network device, Audirvana on the laptop sees both the Signature Rendu and the Yggy as output devices. So on the PC I just don’t understand how the Rendu is relevant to the USB Yggy problem. Sorry if I’m just being slow and thanks for your responses.

bitracer · January 27, 2021, 1:36pm

Just wanted to see if it works when connected via USB. Didn’t know you’re interfacing Yggy via SPDIF.

Which device do you select in scenario PC->Sonore->Yggy.

Take a debug info dump while playing in this scenario and post it here. You can also try to connect Yggy to the Rendu using USB.

bitracer · January 27, 2021, 1:49pm

Sorry, I thought the Signature Rendu only has USB output. Am I missing something?

boleary · January 27, 2021, 1:54pm

Yes, I’m using the original 2015, I think, Signature Rendu which only has two outputs: HDMI and SPDIF via BNC. There is no usb output on the original version. Do you still want the debug info? I believe I posted it above in my first post several days ago. At the time the chain was PC>Yggy(usb). Again, really appreciate your input.

boleary · January 27, 2021, 2:23pm

Yes, I’m using the original 2015, I think, Signature Rendu which only has two outputs: HDMI and SPDIF via BNC. There is no usb output on the original version. Do you still want the debug info? I believe I posted it above in my first post several days ago. At the time the chain was PC>Yggy(usb). Again, really appreciate your input.

bitracer · January 27, 2021, 2:24pm

Ahh ok, didn’t know that. I’m looking at the current Signature Rendu SE.

Must be some setting on the Rendu that is causing the problem. It’s normal that you won’t be able to see the Yggy behind the Rendu. In Audirvana you need to select Rendu as output device, of course.

Post the debug info just in case.

boleary · January 27, 2021, 2:42pm

Will do but won’t be able to do so for a few hours. Thanks again.

Andyman · January 27, 2021, 3:53pm

Hi Bole(!)
I’m assuming that you are attempting to compare yggy’s unison usb input (direct from pc) with playback via (older) rendu? And the latter (works ok?) is therefore irrelevant to your predicament.
Not used windows for a while but is there the option to right click in control panel sound devices (or whatever) and show hidden devices?
If you do get it working I’d be interested to hear your thoughts as I have older Gumby and am considering unison upgrade (also with older microrendu usb out so would work fine with this).
Best of luck,
Andy

boleary · January 28, 2021, 4:27pm

Thanks Andy. You are correct, I am trying to compare the two. Will let you know if I figure it out. Also, I’ve tried the usb input on the Yggy to the SPDIF input using an Allo Signature Bridge with a Digione mounted to it. I thought the SPDIF output sounded better, a bit less noisy.

Andyman · January 28, 2021, 4:40pm

Cool! Did you try the right click thing - your Yggy might be there…?