Do they wear hearing assistance to EQ the audible world, so to get āā¦still preferred the slightly warmer less revealing sound ā¦ā ??
He/she expresses his/her opinion and you express yoursā¦I see no fundamental differenceā¦
It is all subjective and everybody has the right to do soā¦
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It is a simple equationā¦ āYes, I like the soundā¦ā āNo, I donāt like the soundā¦ā What is in between is too subjectiveā¦ I present my playback scenario/confirugration(s) in my subjective statements, so there is some form of reference to extrapolate fromā¦ We cannot look at AudirvÄna software in isolation and make reasonable subjective statements about sound-quality because of the other nonlinearities baked into the assessment affecting the opinion.
Disagree, listeners even without any technical understanding can listen to a unknown and maybe even unvisable system behind a curtain and express their opinion without any form of referenceā¦
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Yes, they can form an opinion based on their cognitive biasesā¦ But we cannot validate their interpretations without some form of objective measurement or juxtaposition for evaluation of those opinionsā¦
Disagree, who could judge or validate a subjective interpretation?
Justification by measurements? Neverā¦
Iāll give you an exampleā¦
If I have a balloon and I tell you that I am going into the room behind me and close the door and I am going to pop the balloon, and I walk into the room and close the door, and you hear the balloon burst, and I walk out of the room with the burst balloon in my handā¦ How do you know that I actually burst the balloon or that somebody else burst the balloon or that the burst balloon is the one that I walked into the room with?
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Your example has nothing to do with a listening scenarioā¦
You can compare listening and wine tastingā¦
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Itās all about subjective interpretation and cognitive biasā¦ Without some comparison or juxtaposition there can be no reasonable assessment of subjective opinionā¦
Let us agree, that we disagreeā¦
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pointless arguing with people who turn hifi into a science lesson. How we perceive hifi is paramount.
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I would say that science (being simply a way of finding out more about what interests us) can be fun and helpful if we use it to assist us in getting where we want to go. So if anyone wants to use it for themselves, or to give assistance to those whoāve asked, wonderful. To use it (or anything else) just to be argumentative serves no good purpose.
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@xtinct1 @Jud @OffRode
Cognitive bias will always be the master of subjective observations.
The metaphorical āballoonā scenario that I posed in my previous posts, is an example of cognitive bias influence on subjective observations, where these sorts of biases will influence assessments of sound-quality.
