Audirvāna upnp problems

Hello.
I use Audirvāna with upnp through my ifi streamer but is so slow I can’t use it at all.
I click the song and it makes 10-12 seconds to start.
Everything is laggy and slow.
When I take off the streamer and connect directly to my chord dac everything is much faster and more responsive.
Even the app remote in my iPhone is much faster.
When I use Roon I don’t have any problem using my stramer.
Everything is super fast.
I don’t know where the problem is.
My streamer is not so fast combined with Audirvāna or it’s Audirvāna’s problem?
Does it worth taking off my streamer and play directly to my dac.
Or buying a more compatible streamer?
I have a Mac mini as a source.
@Antoine

Hello @Alexandros_Petrakis,

Can you send us a copy of the “Debug Info” when you have this issue? You can get it in Audirvana Settings>My account

Note: By clicking on the Debug Info button, Audirvana automatically copies all its content, all you have to do is paste it in response to this message.

Audirvana Studio 2.2.2 (20202)

macOS Version 12.6 (Build 21G115) with 8GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Alex Petrakis

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: OFF
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 0 folders
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/alex/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 127.0.0.1 on port 49317

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: UPnP

Preferred device: [UPnP] IFi Model UID:iFi audio iFi audio UID:uuid:188a2caf-c6b7-7fa8-5a9f-aae950bc4c48

Currently playing to UPnP device at 32 bits 44.1kHz
Selected device:IFi
Manufacturer: iFi audio
Model name: iFi audio
Model UID: iFi audio iFi audio
UID: uuid:188a2caf-c6b7-7fa8-5a9f-aae950bc4c48
UPnP device at http://192.168.1.9:49153/description.xml
ID 0x0

8 available sample rates up to 384000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000

Volume control: Yes

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

UPnP set capabilities
Maximum PCM frequency set: 384000Hz
Maximum PCM bitdepth set: 32
Maximum DSD rate set: DSD256
Avoid RAW PCM streams: No

UPnP / DLNA supported protocols :
http-get::application/flac:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::audio/aac:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/dff:
http-get::audio/x-dff:
http-get::audio/dsd:
http-get::audio/x-dsd:
http-get::audio/dsf:
http-get::audio/x-dsf:
http-get::audio/m4a:
http-get::audio/x-m4a:
http-get::audio/mp1:
http-get::audio/mp4:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/x-mpeg:
http-get::audio/ogg:
http-get::audio/vorbis:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::audio/wave:
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:
http-get::audio/x-ogg:
http-get::audio/x-scpls:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis+ogg:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis:
http-get::video/mp4:
DLNA 1.5: No
Native Gapless playback: Yes
Universal Gapless playback active: No
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Volume Control: dB
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x0 0 channels starting at 0
27 virtual formats:
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 8 little endian Signed Integer 2822.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 8 little endian Signed Integer 5644.8kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 8 little endian Signed Integer 11289.6kHz finite length

0 physical formats

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: PLAYING
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1

Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 0:06:28
CurrentURI: http://192.168.1.7:49152/audirvana/audio_74.wav
CurrentURIMetadata:

dc:titleThe Arc</dc:title>
dc:creatorDavid Gray</dc:creator>
upnp:artistDavid Gray</upnp:artist>
upnp:genrePop</upnp:genre>
upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/vb/4m/ubdc4zfqh4mvb_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
upnp:albumThe Arc</upnp:album>
upnp:originalTrackNumber1</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://192.168.1.7:49152/audirvana/audio_74.wav

nextURI: http://192.168.1.7:49152/audirvana/audio_75.wav
nextURIMetadata: <DIDL-Lite xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:upnp="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/upnp/" xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/" xmlns:dlna="urn:schemas-dlna-org:metadata-1-0/">
June Bug Kate Walsh Kate Walsh Folk http://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/aa/pv/w1ryrh80spvaa_600.jpg Clocktower Park 3 object.item.audioItem.musicTrack http://192.168.1.7:49152/audirvana/audio_75.wav
PlayMedium: HDD
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current transport actions:
Next,Previous,Pause,Stop,Seek

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 IFi iFi audio https://ifi-audio.com The Audiophile Music Player iFi audio 1.0 https://ifi-audio.com 42 uuid:188a2caf-c6b7-7fa8-5a9f-aae950bc4c48 image/png 64 64 32 /upmpd/icon.png urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /upmpd/RenderingControl.xml /ctl/RenderingControl /evt/RenderingControl urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /upmpd/AVTransport.xml /ctl/AVTransport /evt/AVTransport urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upmpd/ConnectionManager.xml /ctl/ConnectionManager /evt/ConnectionManager urn:av-openhome-org:service:Product:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Product /upmpd/OHProduct.xml /ctl/OHProduct /evt/OHProduct urn:av-openhome-org:service:Info:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Info /upmpd/OHInfo.xml /ctl/OHInfo /evt/OHInfo urn:av-openhome-org:service:Time:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Time /upmpd/OHTime.xml /ctl/OHTime /evt/OHTime urn:av-openhome-org:service:Volume:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Volume /upmpd/OHVolume.xml /ctl/OHVolume /evt/OHVolume urn:av-openhome-org:service:Playlist:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Playlist /upmpd/OHPlaylist.xml /ctl/OHPlaylist /evt/OHPlaylist urn:av-openhome-org:service:Radio:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Radio /upmpd/OHRadio.xml /ctl/OHRadio /evt/OHRadio /upmpd/presentation.html http://192.168.1.9:49153/

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 IFi iFi audio https://ifi-audio.com The Audiophile Music Player iFi audio 1.0 https://ifi-audio.com 42 uuid:188a2caf-c6b7-7fa8-5a9f-aae950bc4c48 image/png 64 64 32 /upmpd/icon.png urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /upmpd/RenderingControl.xml /ctl/RenderingControl /evt/RenderingControl urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /upmpd/AVTransport.xml /ctl/AVTransport /evt/AVTransport urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upmpd/ConnectionManager.xml /ctl/ConnectionManager /evt/ConnectionManager urn:av-openhome-org:service:Product:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Product /upmpd/OHProduct.xml /ctl/OHProduct /evt/OHProduct urn:av-openhome-org:service:Info:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Info /upmpd/OHInfo.xml /ctl/OHInfo /evt/OHInfo urn:av-openhome-org:service:Time:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Time /upmpd/OHTime.xml /ctl/OHTime /evt/OHTime urn:av-openhome-org:service:Volume:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Volume /upmpd/OHVolume.xml /ctl/OHVolume /evt/OHVolume urn:av-openhome-org:service:Playlist:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Playlist /upmpd/OHPlaylist.xml /ctl/OHPlaylist /evt/OHPlaylist urn:av-openhome-org:service:Radio:1 urn:av-openhome-org:serviceId:Radio /upmpd/OHRadio.xml /ctl/OHRadio /evt/OHRadio /upmpd/presentation.html http://192.168.1.9:49153/

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x0 : IFi
UID: uuid:188a2caf-c6b7-7fa8-5a9f-aae950bc4c48
Location: http://192.168.1.9:49153/description.xml
Manufacturer: iFi audio
Model name: iFi audio

Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 4020MB

Local Audio Engine: CoreAudio
Actual I/O buffer frame size: 0

Local devices found : 3
Device #0: ID 0x55 SAMSUNG
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Model UID: AppleGFXHDA:0
UID: AppleGFXHDAEngineOutputDP:f803:0:{2D4C-0B30-00000000}
Model name: Apple Inc. SAMSUNG
Device #1: ID 0x4f Ηχεία Mac mini
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Model UID: Speaker
UID: BuiltInSpeakerDevice
Model name: Apple Inc. Ηχεία Mac mini
Device #2: ID 0x2e Dirac Virtual Audio Device
Manufacturer: Dirac Research AB
Model UID: com.dirac.vad_ModelUID
UID: com.dirac.vad_UID
Model name: Dirac Research AB Dirac Virtual Audio Device

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 1
Device #0: Τηλεόραση στο σαλόνι
ID: a2f06a63ba33d000f6faffc68bb64a15
Model name: TPM171E

@Antoine

Which iFi device you try to play to? Is it the Neo Stream?

No it’s the ifi streamer.
The first one.

That one? https://ifi-audio.com/products/zen-stream/

Yes that’s it

Is there something I can do?

I think I found something and helped.
I made some settings to ifi streamer.


I put them in the lowest setting.

We also have a unit at the office but I won’t be able to try those settings until January 2th :confused:

Ok.
If you check it and find the best settings send me please.
Have a nice holiday.

Hi @Alexandros_Petrakis,

I have 32MB as audio buffer size and 30% as buffer before play and I do not have the loading behavior you have.

If lowering those settings helped then keep them as you set them :wink:

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