CRASH! my first

reddog1 · December 30, 2022, 6:28pm

Yikes, all this time, solid as a rock, today crash city… well not quite, I opened the mini-player, for the first time, and clicked on the start button for audio analysis, and boom, gone instantly…
~If this helps
Audirvana Origin 2.2.2 (20202)

macOS 10.15.7 with 16GB physical RAM

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins ACTIVE in offline mode with legacy macOS API
	AU plugin #0: Music Effect - Waves Abbey Road Studio 3 (s) ()
	AU plugin #1: None
	AU plugin #2: None
	AU plugin #3: None

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain to DSD64 with filter type B 7th order
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 95.8342%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase minimum phase

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: by album
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 3 folders
AUTO: /Volumes/Music/Music/1.Albums
AUTO: /Volumes/Music/Music/Mixes and Compilations
AUTO: /Volumes/Music/Music/Singles
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/4bs/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 127.0.0.1 on port 56226

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 15360MB

Local Audio Engine: CoreAudio
Exclusive access: ON
Integer mode: ON
Use max I/O buffer size: ON
Actual I/O buffer frame size: 512

Preferred device:
iFi (by AMR) iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio
Model UID:iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio:20B1:3008
UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:iFi (by AMR):iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio:000:1

Active Sample Rate: 176.4kHz
Hog Mode is off

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio
Manufacturer: iFi (by AMR)
Model name: iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio
Model UID: iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio:20B1:3008
UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:iFi (by AMR):iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio:000:1
USB Vendor ID: 0x20b1
USB Product ID: 0x3008
ID 0xd4

8 available sample rates up to 384000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
Audio buffer frame size : 53 to 4096 frames
Current I/O buffer frame size : 512

Volume Control
Physical: Yes
Virtual: Yes

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
MQA Renderer device
DSD capability: DSD via PCM 1.0

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: Yes

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0xd5 2 channels starting at 1
24 virtual formats:
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz

32 physical formats
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz

Local devices found : 4
Device #0: ID 0xcc Built-in Output
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Model UID: AppleHDA:82
UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,1:0
Model name: Apple Inc. Built-in Output
Device #1: ID 0xd4 iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio
Manufacturer: iFi (by AMR)
Model UID: iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio:20B1:3008
UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:iFi (by AMR):iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio:000:1
USB Vendor ID: 0x20b1
USB Product ID: 0x3008
Model name: iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio
Device #2: ID 0xba Soundflower (2ch)
Manufacturer: ma++ ingalls for Cycling '74
Model UID: com_cycling74_driver_SoundflowerDevice:Soundflower
UID: SoundflowerEngine:0
Model name: ma++ ingalls for Cycling '74 Soundflower (2ch)
Device #3: ID 0x33 Soundflower (64ch)
Manufacturer: ma++ ingalls for Cycling '74
Model UID: com_cycling74_driver_SoundflowerDevice:Soundflower
UID: SoundflowerEngine:1
Model name: ma++ ingalls for Cycling '74 Soundflower (64ch)

UPnP

UPnP devices found : 0

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

RunHomeSlow · December 30, 2022, 7:10pm

Your memory buffer is at the top, too much, no ressource for the system.
Default for 16gb is 13313 if i remember.
Also, you cannot test scan audio when it is a DSD file,
so maybe the same thing will happen if you are upsampling to DSD… except it crash

reddog1 · December 30, 2022, 7:14pm

Thanks, I’ll test your input.

reddog1 · December 30, 2022, 7:27pm

Ok, so looked at the memory buffer,in preferences it shows in Gb, but when you click on the gear wheel to change setting 'max memory allowed for tracks pre-load, it is shown in Mb. Anyway, I lowered the buffer to around 2Gb, it still crashes, so I don’t think the buffer size is the issue. Put buffer size back up to maximum, changed upsampling to device maximum, no crash… Thanks. I don’t think the upsampling to DSD gives me anything, I was just trying it because my DAC can handle it… Device maximum sounds the same to me… And that’s all that matters. Using the balanced output of my DAC to my new headphones and all is good.

Ironz · December 30, 2022, 7:33pm

Prey, tell.
What did you go for in the end?
Wireless, or wired?

reddog1 · December 30, 2022, 7:42pm

Wired, I really don’t need wireless.
I finally settled on Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7b, with balanced cable, plugged into my iFi zen DAC. I’m very happy with the results. I think it’s a good bang for my limited bucks. Us pensioners are not all rich you know…

Antoine · January 2, 2023, 10:45am

Hi @reddog1, can you send the crash report generated at support@audirvana.com ?

reddog1 · January 2, 2023, 10:47am

It apparently only happens when trying to analyse DSD track.

Antoine · January 2, 2023, 12:26pm

The ReplayGain analysis?

reddog1 · January 2, 2023, 1:09pm

No, sorry, wrong terminology. It’s the Audio scan that crashes Origin if I try to scan a DSD file while playing. It is fine for every other file.

Antoine · January 2, 2023, 1:12pm

Can you send a screenshot right before you get the crash?

reddog1 · January 2, 2023, 1:22pm

of course…

Antoine · January 2, 2023, 1:45pm

In this case it’s not scanning a DSD track, it is scanning your 16/44 FLAC track. Do you get the crash whatever track you try to scan?

reddog1 · January 2, 2023, 1:51pm

Of course it’s scanning the actual file… Don’t know why I thought otherwise. There’s no problem when scanning files not upsampled to DSD, however, it won’t scan a native DSD file.

Antoine · January 2, 2023, 1:59pm

Ok, can you please send us the crash at support@audirvana.com since you seem to be able to reproduce the issue easily.

reddog1 · January 2, 2023, 2:37pm

Ok, so. Image shows unable to scan native DSD ( start greyed out )

However, I have been unable to replicate the cresh when analysing upsampled files! Though the first post on this subject does contain a debug report from when I did get a crash. Otherwise, next time it crashes.

Agoldnear · January 2, 2023, 5:31pm

Set to: DSD 1.1
Why not up-sample to DSD128? Your DAC is capable of this…
I’m using 14 GB buffer memory with my quad-core i7 MBP with 16GB RAM

Another conflicting problem maker… Audirvana wants complete control of the Core Audio API’s…

Your macOS version may be causing some problems as well…

reddog1 · January 2, 2023, 6:36pm

The Soundflower device is leftover, I’m trying to figure how to remove it completely, though it shouldn’t effect anything. As for Mac OS version, I’m stuck with that I’m afraid.

RunHomeSlow · January 2, 2023, 6:43pm

Audirvana cannot calculate DR numbers on DSD files,
so i guess it is the same on Audio Scan…
but should not crash the app, just have the button greyed.

reddog1 · January 2, 2023, 6:45pm

Agree. It seems to be behaving now, we’ll see,