DENON and Audirvana

I have Denon AVC 3700H and auidrvana does not see correcty denon’s DAC.
It is 32bit and 768 kHZ cabable dac as well as DSD cabable. However Audirvana sees it as 24bit 192kHZ and no DSD support. Is there a bug with Audirvana that it soes not see Denon’s DAC correctly. My frend who uses audrivana has 4600 model and has the same issue.
On forum however I found in the topic “Need help with settings on Windows 10 NUC” a printscreen from Denon’s AVC -X4700H with correct settings.
Can you please advise.

OK my bad, it has DAC 32bit/ 768kHZ but stereo playback for FLAC and other formats is limited to 24bit /192kHz

Are you connected via USB or you’re streaming using UPnP?

It could be related to HEOS system, and the resolutions above 24/192 can be achieved only using UPnP.

Can you dump the debug info here?

I stream from UPnP.
Audirvana 3.5.41

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: D:\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Audirvana\AudirvanaPlus\AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Preferred device: Denon Model UID:Denon Denon UID:uuid:f0914d20-03b4-1016-0080-0006783961a2

Selected device:
UPnP device at http://192.168.55.136:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Denon Manufacturer:Denon
Model UID:Denon Denon UID:uuid:f0914d20-03b4-1016-0080-0006783961a2

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
Volume control: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/mp3:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/aac:
http-get::audio/m4a:
DLNA 1.5: No
Gapless playback: Yes
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: No
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 192kHz

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: NO_MEDIA_PRESENT
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1
Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 0
MediaDuration: 00:00:00
CurrentURI:
CurrentURIMetadata:
nextURI:
nextURIMetadata:
PlayMedium: NONE
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 GetCurrentState CurrentState out LastChange GetCurrentTransportActions InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Actions out CurrentTransportActions GetDeviceCapabilities InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMedia out PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia RecMedia out PossibleRecordStorageMedia RecQualityModes out PossibleRecordQualityModes GetMediaInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus GetMediaInfo_Ext InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentType out CurrentMediaCategory NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus GetPositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Track out CurrentTrack TrackDuration out CurrentTrackDuration TrackMetaData out CurrentTrackMetaData TrackURI out CurrentTrackURI RelTime out RelativeTimePosition AbsTime out AbsoluteTimePosition RelCount out RelativeCounterPosition AbsCount out AbsoluteCounterPosition GetTransportInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentTransportState out TransportState CurrentTransportStatus out TransportStatus CurrentSpeed out TransportPlaySpeed GetTransportSettings InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMode out CurrentPlayMode RecQualityMode out CurrentRecordQualityMode Next InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Pause InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Play InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Speed in TransportPlaySpeed Previous InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Seek InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Unit in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode Target in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget SetAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentURI in AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData in AVTransportURIMetaData SetNextAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NextURI in NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData in NextAVTransportURIMetaData SetPlayMode InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NewPlayMode in CurrentPlayMode Stop InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID X_SetShuffle InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Shuffle in X_Shuffle AVTransportURI string AVTransportURIMetaData string A_ARG_TYPE_CurrentState_AVTransport string A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID ui4 A_ARG_TYPE_ObjectID string A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode string TRACK_NR TRACK_NR REL_TIME A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget string AbsoluteCounterPosition ui4 AbsoluteTimePosition string CurrentMediaCategory string CurrentMediaDuration string CurrentPlayMode string NORMAL NORMAL REPEAT_ONE REPEAT_ALL CurrentRecordQualityMode string CurrentTrack ui4 0 0 65535 1 CurrentTrackDuration string CurrentTrackMetaData string CurrentTrackURI string CurrentTransportActions string LastChange string NextAVTransportURI string NextAVTransportURIMetaData string NumberOfTracks ui4 0 0 65535 PlayMode ui4 0 PlaybackStorageMedium string PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia string PossibleRecordQualityModes string PossibleRecordStorageMedia string RecordMediumWriteStatus string RecordStorageMedium string RelativeCounterPosition i4 RelativeTimePosition string TransportPlaySpeed string 1 1 12 -12 TransportState string STOPPED STOPPED PAUSED_PLAYBACK PLAYING TRANSITIONING TransportStatus string OK OK ERROR_OCCURRED X_Shuffle boolean 0

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 urn:schemas-denon-com:device:AiosDevice:1 Denon Denon http://www.denon.com Denon AVC-X3700H Aios 4.025 DBCG072002246 uuid:f0914d20-03b4-1016-0080-0006783961a2 00000002 1256 8080 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 Denon Denon http://www.denon.com Denon AVC-X3700H Aios 4.025 uuid:3a0fe9d7-1d45-1f93-0080-0006783961a2 QPlay:1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /upnp/scpd/renderer_dvc/AVTransport.xml /upnp/control/renderer_dvc/AVTransport /upnp/event/renderer_dvc/AVTransport urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upnp/scpd/renderer_dvc/ConnectionManager.xml /upnp/control/renderer_dvc/ConnectionManager /upnp/event/renderer_dvc/ConnectionManager urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /upnp/scpd/renderer_dvc/RenderingControl.xml /upnp/control/renderer_dvc/RenderingControl /upnp/event/renderer_dvc/RenderingControl urn:schemas-denon-com:device:AiosServices:1 AiosServices Denon http://www.denon.com Denon AVC-X3700H Aios 4.025 uuid:06dcc01e-c464-19f1-0080-0006783961a2 urn:schemas-denon-com:service:ErrorHandler:1 urn:denon-com:serviceId:ErrorHandler /upnp/scpd/AiosServicesDvc/ErrorHandler.xml /upnp/control/AiosServicesDvc/ErrorHandler /upnp/event/AiosServicesDvc/ErrorHandler urn:schemas-denon-com:service:ZoneControl:2 urn:denon-com:serviceId:ZoneControl /upnp/scpd/AiosServicesDvc/ZoneControl.xml /upnp/control/AiosServicesDvc/ZoneControl /upnp/event/AiosServicesDvc/ZoneControl urn:schemas-denon-com:service:GroupControl:1 urn:denon-com:serviceId:GroupControl /upnp/scpd/AiosServicesDvc/GroupControl.xml /upnp/control/AiosServicesDvc/GroupControl /upnp/event/AiosServicesDvc/GroupControl urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:1 Denon Denon http://www.denon.com Shares User defined folders and files to other Universal Plug and Play media devices. Denon AVC-X3700H Aios 4.025 DBCG072002246 uuid:3da7ccbf-90d2-ff68-a1ae-68978289345c True urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ContentDirectory /upnp/scpd/ams_dvc/ContentDirectory.xml /upnp/control/ams_dvc/ContentDirectory /upnp/event/ams_dvc/ContentDirectory urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upnp/scpd/ams_dvc/ConnectionManager.xml /upnp/control/ams_dvc/ConnectionManager /upnp/event/ams_dvc/ConnectionManager urn:schemas-denon-com:device:ACT-Denon:1 Denon Denon http://www.denon.com Denon AVC-X3700H Aios 4.025 DBCG072002246 uuid:e7295de5-8921-9081-9d97-c6276240d76b AIOS:0001 161056 Thu 2020-07-23 00:50:21 1.562.281 00:06:78:39:61:A0 en_EU 4 Aios 4.025 1 Production 00:06:78:39:61:A2 urn:schemas-denon-com:service:ACT:1 urn:denon-com:serviceId:ACT /ACT/SCPD.xml /ACT/control /ACT/event

UPnP devices found : 7
Device #0[LG] webOS TV OLED65B8PLA UID: uuid:73cbdf17-4124-2a7a-edd9-f55e6ce82d79 Location: http://192.168.55.106:1351/
Device #1Denon UID: uuid:f0914d20-03b4-1016-0080-0006783961a2 Location: http://192.168.55.136:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Device #2Z9X(Living room) UID: uuid:800a8056785d-dmr Location: http://192.168.55.125:1706/
Device #3Denon UID: uuid:3a0fe9d7-1d45-1f93-0080-0006783961a2 Location: http://192.168.55.136:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Device #4Denon UID: uuid:06dcc01e-c464-19f1-0080-0006783961a2 Location: http://192.168.55.136:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Device #5Denon UID: uuid:3da7ccbf-90d2-ff68-a1ae-68978289345c Location: http://192.168.55.136:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml
Device #6Denon UID: uuid:e7295de5-8921-9081-9d97-c6276240d76b Location: http://192.168.55.136:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml

Max. memory for audio buffers: 518MB

Local Audio Engine:WASAPI

Local devices found : 1
Device #0: Głośnik/Słuchawki (Realtek High Definition Audio) Manufacturer: Model UID: Głośnik/Słuchawki (Realtek High Definition Audio) UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{73f502b5-e111-4dde-ae8f-626533ea09ae}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

@dmdmdm please see

Hi There,

DSD problem is only partial as still DAC in new Denon’s model is only recognized as 192kHZ 24 bit capable whereas ti is 32 bit 764 kHZ? Morover Audirvana doens not recognize HEOS as DLNA 1.5 capable.

Hi There,

DSD problem is only partial as still DAC in new Denon’s model is only recognized as 192kHZ 24 bit capable whereas ti is 32 bit 764 kHZ? Morover Audirvana doens not recognize HEOS as DLNA 1.5 capable.
Morover there is a threat in you forum Need help with settings on Windows 10 NUC
where one of the new Denon’s model is recognized correcly:

Hello @dmdmdm,

The issue you have is related to HEOS/Audirvana compatibility issue, I already talked about it with a software engineer of SoundUnited and didn’t have a clear response about it except that we would probably need the implementation of HEOS in Audirvana to make it work properly which is not quite convenient.

This is not a good news, Had I known it I would have never purchased Denon. Anyway it will be my last amp from this company as it seems they are the only ones that have so big compatibility issue with your software. Form my side I will send them official complaint about this case. Let’s see what their reaction will be.

You shouldn’t stress too much about it. Your device is not high end enough to really benefit from those higher sample rates.

Some 98% of the content available is 16/44.1 anyway.