DSD Playback almost silent with loud hiss

Hi,
I’ve been trying to play back DSD64 using an Earmen Donald Dac and when either DSD via PCM 1.1 or 1.0 are used I get a loud hissing sound and if I max out the volume on my headphone amp I’m able to barely make out the music playing in the background. From my understanding the Donald Dac supports native DSD decoding however there doesn’t appear to be an option for sending a direct DSD stream within the App. Below is the debug info while playing back a DSD track.

Audirvana 3.5.40

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
Globally: OFF
Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: C:\Users\timothy.rose\Music
AUTO: C:\Users\timothy.rose\OneDrive\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\timothy.rose\AppData\Local\Audirvana\AudirvanaPlus\AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Max. memory for audio buffers: 5212MB

Local Audio Engine:WASAPI

Preferred device:
Speakers (7- EarMen Donald DAC)
Model UID:Speakers (7- EarMen Donald DAC)
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{a3163a3b-d52f-4676-8f4f-79d309fe9ea0}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Currently playing in Integer Mode:
Device: 2ch 24bits Integer, 8 bytes per frame 176.4kHz

Active Sample Rate: 176.4kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:
Local audio device
Speakers (7- EarMen Donald DAC) Manufacturer:
Model UID:Speakers (7- EarMen Donald DAC) UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{a3163a3b-d52f-4676-8f4f-79d309fe9ea0}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

8 available sample rates up to 384000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
MQA Renderer device
DSD capability: DSD via PCM 1.1
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 384kHz

Local devices found : 5
Device #0: Speaker/HP (Realtek High Definition Audio) Manufacturer: Model UID: Speaker/HP (Realtek High Definition Audio) UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{aabcc21a-8c9d-4bbf-835c-5d971a216f82}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Device #1: Speakers (4- Logitech USB Headset H340) Manufacturer: Model UID: Speakers (4- Logitech USB Headset H340) UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{e44e5c53-e800-43b1-b842-b6e80a3004e6}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Device #2: ASUS VK278 (Intel® Display Audio) Manufacturer: Model UID: ASUS VK278 (Intel® Display Audio) UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{190edd0e-49ba-4b2a-ac0c-2e74cf2aa1e6}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Device #3: Speakers (7- EarMen Donald DAC) Manufacturer: Model UID: Speakers (7- EarMen Donald DAC) UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{a3163a3b-d52f-4676-8f4f-79d309fe9ea0}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Device #4: Speakers (Zorloo Ztella USB Audio) Manufacturer: Model UID: Speakers (Zorloo Ztella USB Audio) UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{5f10ab0d-25d4-4d13-a985-a52f63000e4d}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

UPnP devices found : 0

You’ll need to install the USB driver for that? Is there a driver available from the manufacturer?

The only link I found is this:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0250/1758/1634/files/EarMen_Win-1.rar?186

Not sure if it’s for your DAC specifically. Check that with the manufacturer.

Unfortunately this dac is plug and play and works off the Windows 10 USB Audio 2.0 Driver. I did try that driver you found the other week but it is meant for an ESS Sabre Dac and not the Cirrus Logic chips in this one.
I’ve written to the manufacturer now to see what they have to say, cross fingers they come back with something.

Not a pc guy, but have you tried with asio ?

And that in the debug info:
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No
Is it normal?

@RunHomeSlow the volume controls I think are normal for this dac. Otherwise I would expect there to be an issue playing back other formats. I don’t believe it supports ASIO but I can give it a try.

ASIO performs exactly the same :frowning: It actually seems to perform worse when I change the Native DSD streaming method over to None: convert to PCM as there is now added noise compared to WASAPI. Debug info in case it matters:

Audirvana 3.5.40

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
Globally: OFF
Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: C:\Users\timothy.rose\Music
AUTO: C:\Users\timothy.rose\OneDrive\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\timothy.rose\AppData\Local\Audirvana\AudirvanaPlus\AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Max. memory for audio buffers: 5212MB

Local Audio Engine:ASIO 2 driver version 2

Preferred device:
Speakers (EarMen Donald DAC)
Model UID:Speakers (EarMen Donald DAC)
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{f64264cb-9817-43cb-ae2f-b511118d608d}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Currently playing in Integer Mode:
Device: 2ch 32bits Integer, 8 bytes per frame 176.4kHz

Active Sample Rate: 176.4kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:
Local audio device
ASIO4ALL v2 Manufacturer:
Model UID:ASIO4ALL v2 UID:ASIO4ALL v2

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to MQA Renderer
DSD capability: DSD via PCM 1.1
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: Yes

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz

Local devices found : 1
Device #0: ASIO4ALL v2 Manufacturer: Model UID: ASIO4ALL v2 UID: ASIO4ALL v2

UPnP devices found : 2
Device #0[LG] webOS TV OLED65CXPTA UID: uuid:3431b765-4acf-ac27-2a02-0754ab57c87f Location: http://192.168.1.223:1575/
Device #1Room1 UID: uuid:9ab0c000-f668-11de-9976-00a0ded44b0f Location: http://192.168.1.50:49154/MediaRenderer/desc.xml

Not sure how useful this info is, but I’m able to get DSD playback with Foobar2000 over WASAPI with the following config:



Am still waiting to hear back from Earmen, I had contacted them previously and hadn’t heard anything back, this time I went via their sales team who hopefully will be able to get someone to take a look for me