Feature request for Qobuz Connect in Core

It would truly be awesome if audirvana-studio (core) would include Qobuz Connect! It would make it so any client app that includes that connection type could connect to core, even those on the same Linux computer as the core service.

Please, please, please! :grin:

??? What exactly do you think Audirvāna will bring to the table, beyond DSP? If the employment of DSP is the rationale, this obviates the premise for Qobuz Connect…

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@Agoldnear - That’s exactly the point I was making. Since core (on Linux) acts as a ā€œhardwareā€ device, getting instructions from the mobile app as to the account and what to play, then the Qobuz Connect receiver inclusion could make it possible to just stream from any app that has the client protocol included.

While it might not be a priority, it could be a nice feature so that any Linux computer could act as a hardware network device for Qobuz using the core engine.

Does Audirvāna Core not support streaming from Qobuz?

It doesn’t support streaming Qobuz from ANY client that has Qobuz Connect ability. Maybe I’m not being clear enough in my description, and that’s on me.

So, I apologize for my ignorance about Audirvāna Core… Are you not able to stream content from Qobuz as a client?

Let me paint an example for clarity:

Audirvana core on Linux + the Audirvana app on the phone works flawlessly and sounds amazing (of course).

Audirvana core on Linux + any other client app that has Qobuz Connect as an option does not work.

For example: On Linux, there’s an app named QBZ, which is a great app, but the sound engine isn’t as polished as Audirvana. However, it does support Qobuz Connect to dedicated devices that support that protocol / connection types. If Core had the option to connect using Qobuz connect, that client app (or any that support the connect option), it could open up the Linux client app (and phone apps) to control Audirvana Core as they adopt the connection.

Does that make more sense? Core is the server, apps that support could be the client, with some limitations.

What makes sense to me, is the premise of Qobuz Connect as the audio-engine and GUI… Otherwise it is superfluous in the context of the Audirvāna audio-engine playback of streamed content from Qobuz, which I presume it does.

You may be correct, I’m not sure. But my assumption is that since Qobuz Connect is a connection protocol, it doesn’t do any of the audio processing, which is then left to the device that receives the client request and connects to the Qobuz service. At least, that’s my understanding of how the technology works, but I may be wrong.

Basically, I would like this:

Present: Audirvana Studio app ←→ Core (proprietary connect protocol)

Request: Any app with Qobuz Connect ←→ Core (Qobuz protocol)

This describes the premise and nature of Qobuz Connect… it is the audio-engine that drives the audio device…

Listen in Hi-Res with Qobuz Connect

With Qobuz Connect, the control of your paired audio devices remains entirely within the Qobuz app, so listening through your connected amplifier or wireless speakers no longer requires the use of the manufacturer’s app. What’s more, Qobuz Connect ensures Hi-Res music playback at up to 192 kHz/24-bit on your connected equipment.

So, it’s more like a Bluetooth / network streaming protocol vs. one like casting to a device (that uses the device hardware for processing).

If that’s the case, then maybe my request doesn’t work.

It is a player… using proprietary protocol that is supported by some devices…
the supported hardware…

https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/discover/apps-partners#audio-qobuz-connect

Still, I think it might be possible, but there may be licensing concerns. From Google AI summary when I asked if Qobuz Connect was like casting:

Yes, Qobuz Connect functions similarly to casting technologies like Spotify Connect or Google Cast, where your phone or laptop acts as a remote control while the streaming device pulls music directly from the cloud. It allows for seamless playback transfer between devices and ensures high-resolution audio streaming without draining your phone’s battery.

OK, I’m done.

@Antoine - Please consider this request and let me know if it’s totally out of the question. Thanks!

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It is superfluous in the context of Audirvāna… The salient question comes from the perceived value and sound-quality in any given playback scenario… Qobuz Connect is a barebones approach to streamed Qobuz digital-audio content playback on a supported device…

A.f.a.i.k. Qobuz connect is the same as Tidal connect and Spotify connect. It is a ā€˜all in one’ software package that is embedded by a manufacturer. It does the signal process as well, not just connectivity, search and control of the playback. That’s why Qobuz connect sounds different than Qobuz embedded if you use a streamer that features both.

I’m also wondering where this would leave the application Audirvāna where it comes to the processing. In my belief the processing by the PC is what makes the sound quality of Audirvāna stand out.

If Audirvāna would use Qobuz Connect then the renderer (in my case my Naim streamer) would be asked to get the stream directly from the source… So doesn’t that mean then that the benefits of using Audirvāna are being diminished?

Maybe this is exactly what other participants in the thread are saying, but as English isn’t my native language I’m not sure if this is indeed what they try to say.

No, not necessarily. Instead of the Naim it would be Audirvana acting as the Qobuz connect end-point and pass it on to the Naim. But I think that is currently not possible with Qobuz Connect.

Tidal connect works a bit different. That is a library of components that together make Tidal connect. Grimm Audio has implemented Tidal connect by only using the parts that are needed to interact with Tidal, but they have written the sound processing part themselves.

In theory, Audirvana could do the same.

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I see. So Qobuz Connect would use Audirvāna as the renderer and Audirvāna the Naim…