Integrating Astell&Kern Kann DAP

Hi,

I searched for an answer to this, but couldn’t find anything.

Can I use my Kann DAP to somehow interact with Audirvana? eg, playback music files from the SD card that has 1000’s of songs.

I can playback files from my NAS successfully by using the “add folders” function , but even though I can see the folders to add from the Kann it will not let me select “ok” because it is not highlighted.

Thanks in advance.

Hello @gryffe,

When you have connected your DAP to your computer, are you able to see the files in it with File Explorer or Finder if you are on MacOs? Feel free to send us a screenshot so it would be easier for us to help you.

Hi @Damien3, thanks for reply.

Yes I can see the files on the Kann DAP with File Explorer. As you can see the album that I have chosen to add to Library does not allow me to press OK as it is not highlighted.

Unfortunately you need to have access to the files inside your DAP, not the mediaserver. You can use your DAP to listen to files that are already synced with Audirvana or to listen to Qobuz/Tidal/HRA steaming but if you can’t access with a mounted disk, you won’t be bale to play it in Audirvana.

Thanks for looking into this @Damien3. I appreciate that what I am trying to do cannot be achieved with the Kann DAP as a mediaserver.

I wonder if you can fill in a knowledge gap for me please regarding your suggestion of using the Kann DAP to listen to Qobuz/Tidal via Audirvana. This works perfectly if I just use headphones directly into the Kann DAP.
I wonder though if you could explain how I would get this to work using my Chord DAC and outputting to loudspeakers, as opposed to listening through headphones. I have attempted to do this but am getting mixed results.

I have selected the Kann DAP as the Network device on Audirvana (normally I would select my Chord DAC), and then select songs to play from either Qobuz or Tidal on Audirvana window. I then go to my Kann DAP and select the option to output the sound to my Chord DAC. This initially seems to work, but when the song starts playing back via the DAC to the loudspeakers the display on the Audirvana window does not show the time increasing, it remains at 00:00. Also after 2 songs the music stops playing.

Sorry for the clunky explanation in my question. Maybe what I am trying to attempt is not possible?

When you are in this situation, can you send me a copy of the “Debug Info”? You can get it in Audirvana Settings>General>Debug Info

Note: By clicking on the Debug Info button, Audirvana automatically copies all its content, all you have to do is paste it in response to this message

Thanks Damien

Audirvana 3.5.40

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: \NAS1466AD-kev\kevin\Hi res
AUTO: \NAS1466AD-kev\kevin\electronic
Library database path: C:\Users\kevin\AppData\Local\Audirvana\AudirvanaPlus\AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Preferred device: KANN Model UID:iriver Ltd. KANN UID:uuid:4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6

Currently playing to UPnP device at 24 bits 44.1kHz
Selected device:
UPnP device at http://192.168.1.155:5500/upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/desc
KANN Manufacturer:iriver Ltd.
Model UID:iriver Ltd. KANN UID:uuid:4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
Volume control: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:
http-get::audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get:
:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=M4A;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get::audio/x-wav:DLNA.ORG_PN=WAV;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMA;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get::audio/ogg:DLNA.ORG_PN=OGG;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get:
:audio/aac:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get::audio/x-ape:DLNA.ORG_PN=APE;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get:
:audio/dsf:DLNA.ORG_PN=DSF;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get::audio/dff:DLNA.ORG_PN=DSD;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get:
:audio/aiff:DLNA.ORG_PN=AIFF;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
http-get:*:audio/flac:DLNA.ORG_PN=FLAC;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=40000000000000000000000000000000
DLNA 1.5: No
Gapless playback: Yes
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 2822.4kHz
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 5644.8kHz

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: PLAYING
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1
Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 00:03:32
CurrentURI: http://192.168.1.98:49152/audirvana/audio_0_87.wav
CurrentURIMetadata: dc:titleArt Decade (2017 Remaster)</dc:title>dc:creatorDavid Bowie</dc:creator>upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>upnp:artistDavid Bowie</upnp:artist>upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/gc/88/ewo5803ds88gc_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>upnp:albumLow (2017 Remaster)</upnp:album>upnp:originalTrackNumber9</upnp:originalTrackNumber>http://192.168.1.98:49152/audirvana/audio_0_87.wav
nextURI: http://192.168.1.98:49152/audirvana/audio_1_88.wav
nextURIMetadata: dc:titleWeeping Wall (2017 Remaster)</dc:title>dc:creatorDavid Bowie</dc:creator>upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>upnp:artistDavid Bowie</upnp:artist>upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/gc/88/ewo5803ds88gc_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>upnp:albumLow (2017 Remaster)</upnp:album>upnp:originalTrackNumber10</upnp:originalTrackNumber>http://192.168.1.98:49152/audirvana/audio_1_88.wav
PlayMedium: NETWORK
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 Seek InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Unit in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode Target in A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget Play InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Speed in TransportPlaySpeed GetMediaInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NrTracks out NumberOfTracks MediaDuration out CurrentMediaDuration CurrentURI out AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData out AVTransportURIMetaData NextURI out NextAVTransportURI NextURIMetaData out NextAVTransportURIMetaData PlayMedium out PlaybackStorageMedium RecordMedium out RecordStorageMedium WriteStatus out RecordMediumWriteStatus Stop InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID GetTransportSettings InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMode out CurrentPlayMode RecQualityMode out CurrentRecordQualityMode SetRecordQualityMode InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NewRecordQualityMode in CurrentRecordQualityMode Next InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Record InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID GetTransportInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentTransportState out TransportState CurrentTransportStatus out TransportStatus CurrentSpeed out TransportPlaySpeed Previous InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID GetDeviceCapabilities InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID PlayMedia out PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia RecMedia out PossibleRecordStorageMedia RecQualityModes out PossibleRecordQualityModes Pause InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID GetCurrentTransportActions InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Actions out CurrentTransportActions SetAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID CurrentURI in AVTransportURI CurrentURIMetaData in AVTransportURIMetaData GetPositionInfo InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID Track out CurrentTrack TrackDuration out CurrentTrackDuration TrackMetaData out CurrentTrackMetaData TrackURI out CurrentTrackURI RelTime out RelativeTimePosition AbsTime out AbsoluteTimePosition RelCount out RelativeCounterPosition AbsCount out AbsoluteCounterPosition SetNextAVTransportURI InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NextURI in AVTransportURI NextURIMetaData in AVTransportURIMetaData SetPlayMode InstanceID in A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID NewPlayMode in CurrentPlayMode PossibleRecordStorageMedia string NOT_IMPLEMENTED AbsoluteTimePosition string NextAVTransportURI string NOT_IMPLEMENTED CurrentTrackDuration string TransportPlaySpeed string 1 TransportState string STOPPED PLAYING TRANSITIONING PAUSED_PLAYBACK PAUSED_RECORDING RECORDING NO_MEDIA_PRESENT CUSTOM PossiblePlaybackStorageMedia string NETWORK A_ARG_TYPE_SeekTarget string AVTransportURIMetaData string NOT_IMPLEMENTED A_ARG_TYPE_InstanceID ui4 CurrentTrackURI string CurrentPlayMode string NORMAL NORMAL SHUFFLE REPEAT_ONE REPEAT_ALL RANDOM DIRECT_1 INTRO NumberOfTracks ui4 0 RecordStorageMedium string NOT_IMPLEMENTED UNKNOWN DV MINI-DV VHS W-VHS S-VHS D-VHS VHSC VIDEO8 HI8 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-R CD-RW VIDEO-CD SACD M-AUDIO MD-PICTURE DVD-ROM DVD-VIDEO DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW DVD-RAM DVD-AUDIO DAT LD HDD MICRO_MV NETWORK NONE NOT_IMPLEMENTED VENDOR_SPECIFIC TransportStatus string OK ERROR_OCCURED CUSTOM AVTransportURI string RecordMediumWriteStatus string NOT_IMPLEMENTED WRITABLE PROTECTED NOT_WRITABLE UNKNOWN NOT_IMPLEMENTED CurrentTransportActions string PlaybackStorageMedium string NONE UNKNOWN DV MINI-DV VHS W-VHS S-VHS D-VHS VHSC VIDEO8 HI8 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-R CD-RW VIDEO-CD SACD M-AUDIO MD-PICTURE DVD-ROM DVD-VIDEO DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW DVD-RAM DVD-AUDIO DAT LD HDD MICRO_MV NETWORK NONE NOT_IMPLEMENTED VENDOR_SPECIFIC RelativeTimePosition string CurrentTrack ui4 0 AbsoluteCounterPosition i4 2147483647 CurrentMediaDuration string 00:00:00 CurrentTrackMetaData string NOT_IMPLEMENTED NextAVTransportURIMetaData string NOT_IMPLEMENTED RelativeCounterPosition i4 2147483647 PossibleRecordQualityModes string NOT_IMPLEMENTED CurrentRecordQualityMode string NOT_IMPLEMENTED 0:EP 1:LP 2:SP 0:BASIC 1:MEDIUM 2:HIGH NOT_IMPLEMENTED A_ARG_TYPE_SeekMode string TRACK_NR ABS_TIME REL_TIME ABS_COUNT REL_COUNT CHANNEL_FREQ TAPE-INDEX FRAME LastChange string

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 KANN iriver Ltd. http://www.iriver.com DMR on Astell&Kern MQS Streaming Renderer 1.0 http://www.iriver.com 0000-0000-0000-0000 uuid:4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6 000000000000 image/png 48 48 8 /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/icon_48 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/ConnectionManager/desc /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/ConnectionManager/action /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/ConnectionManager/event urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/AVTransport/desc /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/AVTransport/action /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/AVTransport/event urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/RenderingControl/desc /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/RenderingControl/action /upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/svc/upnp-org/RenderingControl/event

UPnP devices found : 6
Device #0Den speaker UID: uuid:63f02f69-59d8-48db-93ef-6cb353f6553e Location: http://192.168.1.207:32771/63f02f69-59d8-48db-93ef-6cb353f6553e.xml
Device #1JPLAY FEMTO UID: uuid:JPLAY127.0.0.1-MediaRenderer Location: http://192.168.1.113:48167/JPLAY127.0.0.1-MediaRenderer/Upnp/device.xml
Device #2[TV] Samsung Q60 Series (43) UID: uuid:05407f8f-0cc7-4365-acc4-cfc762b698fc Location: http://192.168.1.220:9197/dmr
Device #3Chord 2Go:2Go-041770 UID: uuid:6ff7a8fe-bf06-71de-d8c1-00703def003e Location: http://192.168.1.242:49152/uuid-6ff7a8fe-bf06-71de-d8c1-00703def003e/description.xml
Device #4TOSHIBA TV UID: uuid:13ec3432-1e1b-11b2-b432-7054b4960276 Location: http://192.168.1.197:2870/dmr.xml
Device #5KANN UID: uuid:4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6 Location: http://192.168.1.155:5500/upnp/dev/4d696e69-8398-117c-0102-0018d5690fc6/desc

Max. memory for audio buffers: 632MB

Local Audio Engine:WASAPI

Local devices found : 1
Device #0: Speakers (Realtek® Audio) Manufacturer: Model UID: Speakers (Realtek® Audio) UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{c80727c0-de5c-4b43-bc2b-b17ed69fbd72}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Have you tried to send audio to your Chord using your Kann in UPnP mode without Audirvana? Does it work?

Hi Damien, yes it does work without Audirvana.

When you try to do output to your Chord using your DAP in UPnP with Audirvana, can you check if the audio is not coming out of your DAP jack?

Hi Damien. We can just park this for now. I am going to send the DAP in for repair as the Micro SD reader appears damaged and I cannot play songs from it. Thanks for help so far.

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