Recording of the ‘Last Play’ event stops randomly, although tracks within the playlist continue to play.
I note that when the ‘Last Play’ events fail to be recorded, that the progress of subsequent tracks that play (both time played/remaining and the coloured progress bar) also stop displaying.
I am running Origin 2.5.21 on macOS Sonoma 14.7.4. Upgrades to the OS never help with this issue.
‘Last Play’ event might be recorded for only one track or it might be recorded for 50 tracks, before failing to record the event. There seems to be no common situation that might cause this. I have tried many things such as closing all other apps on the Mac.
‘Last Play’ is an important feature for me but it has never worked consistently in Audirvana for me.
Hi @happydaze59,
Can you please tell me what you are referring by “Last play”?
Think he is referring to tracks not being recorded as played in the playback history view. The first column in this view is “last play”. Have been experiencing this with a pair of new Devialet Phantom II. When playing a queue of about 20 tracks today the first 8 were recorded. The last 12 were not recorded as played at all despite playing perfectly, I have encountered this a few times in recent days 2.9.6.1 on macOS 15.3.1
Does it happen only over UPNP or when you play with the speakers on your computer?
Only over UPnP. Playing to a DAC over USB or Mac speakers is no issue. Also I have not had this issue playing over UPnP to a Chord Electronics 2Go but will admit to spending most of my listening time in my office playing to the Phantom II’s. I have two 2Go’s one connected to a Hugo2 for headphones and one connected to a 2Yu attached to a TT2 DAC and BerTTi Amp as my main listening system.
Seems similar to the issue I have long since had with KEF speakers which failed to record the final track in a play queue only much worse. To my mind I have only noticed this since 2.9.6.1 as far as I can recall
Here is an example of the issue, albeit a less severe one. Below is a screenshot of the play queue played this morning to the Phantom II’s. All 10 songs played perfectly and sounded great.
And here is the resulting Play History view. You will note that both “New Years Day - U2” was not recorded as played but it actually played perfectly. You will also notice the final track in the play queue “Faith - Bon Iver” was also not recorded as being played.
I have recorded an Audirvana Log for the entire 10 songs played. If you wish me to send it to you send me a link to drop it off. The U2 song not recorded finished at about 9:16 AM. The last track played is obviously at the end of the playback log.
Thanks for steering me in the right direction. It never occurred to me that it could be related to UPnP. However, after testing all day using a wired connection to other speakers, the ‘Last Play’ event never failed. So yes, I assume the issue is with UPnP as I usually play music via a WiiM device (over WiFi).
I guess the next question is this:
Is the issue related to Audirvana or is it a WiFi/UPnP issue that I need to resolve?
A pretty complex issue to resolve, I have been trying for two years.
I have 3 streaming systems. Chord Electronics 2Go (2 of them). Devialet Phantom II speakers and KEF LS 50 Wireless II.
All are connected to WiFi 7 Mesh routers via Ethernet one in the master bedroom one in main lounge and one in my office.
My MacBook Pro connects to the network via wireless and the backhaul between routers is wireless ( can’t change that due to building regulations and wife not allowing cables run across floor)
I suffer from this issue with both the KEF’s and the Devialet’s but not the Chord 2Go’s
Here is what I have found……
- Is it a network bandwidth issue? No I can play DSD128 and upsample to 384 kHz to the KEF’s and upsample to 768 kHz and play DSD256 to the Chord 2Go’s and never have any playback issues. My MacBook Pro connects to WiFi over 6E and the router backhaul combines 5 and 6 ghz bands via MLO and measured throughput on the backhaul is 6-7 gbps.
- Not had a single playback dropout or issue for 2 years once devices were set up correctly.
- Is it a purely wireless issue? No I can connect the MacBook directly to the KEF’s with a cable via UPnP over Ethernet so no network is involved and I still get the issue!
- Is it a flaw in design of UPnP? After all UPnP was not originally designed for media streaming, but that I think is possible but I am not technically knowledgable enough when it comes to UPnP to answer that question. However it is well known UPnP has many limitations when it comes to streaming which manufactures and software vendors address in different ways (which is why many manufacturers have “modified/enhanced” proprietary versions to overcome some of the limitations)
- Is it a software issue in Audirvana…. Possibly but why do the Chord 2Go’s not suffer this issue but the other 2 streamers do? Why is it intermittent?
- Is it a UPnP issue in the firmware of the Devialet and KEF’s? More likely but seeing as there are not a large number of KEF and Devialet users reporting this issue this seems far from proven!
As it is an intermittent issue I doubt it will be resolved anytime soon……… only way for me to get accurate play history and play counts is to permanently switch to Roon as this has never occurred using Roon’s RAAT streaming protocol (I have a subscription and dabble with Roon on a test machine but, no doubt due to some form of cognitive bias, I hear an improvement in SQ in Studio and I despise the design of the UI in Roon) Decisions…. decisions……as Roon needs a annual renewal on the 15th of this month…… so in the words of the Clash “Should I stay or should I Go”? I had planned to dump Roon and just stick to AS but then I got the Devialet’s only a month ago and this issue came to prominence once again (I had invested in a second Chord 2Go connected to a Hugo 2 feeding analogue to the KEF’s to negate the issue). To have to keep switching my 2Go/Hugo2 to feed an analog output to the Devialet’s seems to be getting silly rather than just flipping to Roon………….
As I am OCD with a fixation on play counts and accurate play history I find this issue highly annoying!
Hi @Djm1960,
I’m trying to reproduce your issue with a Mac connected over UPNP with KEF and a Windows computer to a Devialet.
How long have you run Audirvāna until you saw tracks not being recorded as played?
Hi @Antoine
It varied but typically a minimum of 6 tracks played sometimes up to 15. I resolved my issue a different way.
Bought 2 more Chord Electronics 2Yu and 2Go’s. Now all of my endpoints Main HugoTT2/BerTTi amp and B&W 702’s, and the problematic KEF LS50’s (Only ever the last track in play queue failed to be recorded) and the Devialet Phantom II’s (intermittent mid play queue failures to record tracks as played) are fed by Ethernet connected 2Go/2Yu streamer/bridges which never suffer from this issue.
An expensive solution but giving up on AS was not an option. Love it too much!
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In reality it was from setting up the Devialets in early February I did not notice any failed playcounts until early in March. It was close to the time 2.9.6.1 was released but it may have occurred earlier and I just did not notice. I normally glance to make sure the last track was recorded with KEF’s as I have been dealing with the failure to record the last track in a queue for several years.
Once set up correctly I was not to focussed on this with the Devialet’s as for the first few weeks there was no issue. It was only the first time it failed to record the last 12 tracks in a queue as played that I noticed it. Then became more aware of it when I started trouble shooting and noticed that odd mid queue tracks failed to be recorded. Playback throughout this time was faultless.
Sorry I can’t be more precise in the timing of encountering the issue.
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Yes. The 2Go streamer whether connected to a Hugo2 or a 2Yu has never suffered from a failure to record a playcount or failed to have an entry in playback history since I first tried the 2Go attached to a Hugo 2 back in November.
The KEF and Devialet do suffer the issues. I now have a 2Go-2Yu connected to my main playback system in the lounge. One connected via co-axial out to the KEF speakers and I take the Toslink out of a third 2Go-2Yu to feed the Devialets.
As stated, an expensive solution but better than switching to the “other” playback software. Also, although it may be expensive I do intend to transition away from the KEF’s and Devialets when I retire in a couple of years and move back home to the UK. I have been overjoyed with the SQ when I switched from KEF LS60’s in the main lounge to a 2Go-2Yu feeding a HugoTT2-BerTTi and on to a pair of B&W 702 speakers. The KEF LS60’s were really good however the “grown up” separates are more resolving to my ears. The 2Go/2Yu combination with its “guarantee” of success with AS in my case means any separate system I get for the bedroom and office will just employ a DAC/Amp/Speakers, no need to get a new streamer so the money spent will not be wasted.
