Metadata editing audirvana linux

Hello All

Is there a way to edit metadata in Audirvana running under Linux? For example, I normally have album artists sorted according to the artist‘s last name. It can be done with Audirvana running on a Mac. But I have nothing found in the Linux version (at least not with the remote). For example, I noticed that the artist Bill Evans is listed under his first name, but I would like to have the artist sorted under E.

Any ideas?

Thanks for input.

I assume there is no tag editor in the Audirvana remote app (I am not sure because I don’t have the remote installed at the moment).

There are some workarounds:

  • If you have the same local library files defined in Audirvana on your Mac and Audirvana on Linux, then if you edit them in Audirvana on your Mac those changes should be visible in Audirvana Linux too (after a re-sync).

  • Or use a free external meta-tag editor like Mp3Tag or the like (lots of free ones available) to edit the files in your Linux library (or any audio track library for that matter). After a re-sync in Audirvana under Linux this should be visible too.

No, the remote has no metadata editor.

And yes, I figured that for the moment there is no other solution than using the editor on the Mac to achieve what I want. That’s tedious!

I rather thought that the Linux version should have an editor, too, to be able to choose between two equal alternatives.

Please Audirvana team, do think about adding a metadata editor to the Linux version.

I know I don’t sound like fun right now, but the remote app does not have direct access to the library files/folder structure and therefore can not read/write from/to those files.

It can only send and receive certain commands to/from the main Audirvana program on your computer. It is literally only meant (and designed) as a remote control to play/pause tracks (and a little bit more) and retrieve some (limited) info from the main program. The main program on your computer does all the work.

The Windows and Mac version have a graphical user interface on the computer (where you can edit meta data). The Linux version is a headless/console version and therefore does not have a GUI. That makes sense because of the many different Linux distro’s with different GUI libraries out there it would be impossible to maintain a version of Audirvana for each of them.

Building a meta tag editor in the remote app, because of the reasons I mentioned seems IMO technically impossible in the current form.

So don’t hold your breath.

I have the habit to make sure the meta data is correct and edited (with an external tag editor) before I add those tracks to my local music library (which is accessed not only by Audirvana, but also by Foobar, JRiver and some other media players). If done correctly it only has to happen once, so I personally don’t see it as tedious or a hassle. It is even a benefit, because this way I only have one edit and it appears in all media players.

Your miles may vary of course, but try to find a workable workaround which is the least tedious for you because it will probably not happen in the remote app any time soon :wink:

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Thanks for guidance!

I mightn‘t have expressed myself clearly but I haven‘t found an editor on the computer running the Linux version of Audirvana. Or am I just dim witted :grinning:?

The prospect of logging in on another computer, doing the editing and going back to the Linux machine is not so appealing. But if it’s unavoidable, well, there‘s no choice.

Thanks again!

Maybe I misunderstand you, but you don’t need an external tag editor to run any version (including the Linux version) of Audirvana, because the meta-data we are talking about is stored in the music files themselves and not in the Audirvana database.

You can use a free tag editor on any Mac or Windows computer and then you access and edit your music files (flac, Wav, mp3 etc.) directly. You don’t need Audirvana at all for that.

After that you can start (or open) Audirvana and (re)synchronize you music library and you are done.

Al you need is access to the folders/drives where your music files are stored.

Thanks, Andy!

Is there a good tag editor for Linux? I used mp3tag but I don‘t know if there‘s a Linux version available.

I have no experience with Linux tag editors. You’ll have to Google that or maybe someone on this forum knows one.

But why not use mp3tag on the Mac? As long as you can connect to the folders or network drive where your music files are you are fine.

My library is on a NAS. I can connect to it from every computer in my home network so it does not matter on which computer/OS my tag editor resides.

If you have your music files stored locally on your Linux computer you could share that folder on your network to be visible in mp3tag on your Mac.

I am not a Linux expert so hopefully someone else on this forum can chime in how to share folders in Linux.

Yes, MusicBrainz (the database Audirvana uses to look up metadata) has created a Linux version of their metadata editor as well.

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Yes, certainly, editing metadata after transferring them to my Mac is a good option. But I‘m having issues with file transfers via the Mac function ,connect to server…‘. I‘m working on it…

Too bad that the Linux version has no graphical interface similar to the Mac version! I hope this will be included in future updates.

Thanks! I have it installed already. Let‘s see if I can cure the problem with MusicBrainz Picard.

If you already have Samba running in Linux and Mac’s “Connect to server” function doesn’t work, then what I’m about to suggest won’t help you.

You can do this in a couple of ways. You can have one music file storage location accessible by both the Mac and Linux (could be external drive or NAS) or one file storage location for each but duplicated (two external drives). I use the latter.

I edit my metadata on Mac (I like Yate for that), then duplicate to the Linux external drive with ChronoSync running on the Mac. I also use ChronoSync to back up to the Backblaze B2 cloud, in case some electrical disaster or fire would take down both external drives at once.

ChronoSync isn’t terribly expensive, and you never have to pay for updates.

But this two drive method only works if you can use Connect to server on the Mac to find the Linux external drive.

I am running into all sorts of problems. I managed to get Samba working on my Ubuntu machine. I could pull files from the Ubuntu machine onto my Mac for editing in a metadata editor. But after editing, I could not push the files back onto my Ubuntu machine. Arrrgh, something is still not properly set up in the Samba config files.

Then I tried to edit some of the files that are located on an external SSD with MusicBrainz Picard. Alas, it turns out that I have no permission to acces/modify the files. And for the life of it, I could not change owner rights for accessing the files on theexternal drive.

The best solution I have is to unmount the SSD and walk one flight up to my Mac and edit the files and Go back to the Ubuntu computer and resync Audirvana. Pretty high tech stuff :rofl:

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Your wife can’t complain that you aren’t getting any exercise. :wink:

I guess my wife is sick and tired of seeing me behind the Linux machine in the living room and tearing my hair trying to alleviate all those Linux traps.

I think I give up Linux for good and return to my Mac environment :grinning:.

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I have a MacBook, a Synology NAS and a Raspberry Pi running Linux dedicated to Audirvana. All music files are on the NAS. I have Synology Drive now running on my MacBook, which works like OneDrive or iCloud or Dropbox: all files reside on the Synology, but my Mac sees it as a normal folder in which all files are listed.

The Raspberry Pi pulls the music files from the Synology. I have it as a samba share mounted on the Pi, but with the current version of Audirvana Core you can add the NAS folder from the Audirvana App as a music folder that Audirvana has to index.

Works flawless. When I edit metadata from the Mac, I can synchronise it with Audirvana by telling Audirvana to synchronise my mounted folder from the NAS on the Pi.

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Fine!

I just reverted my MacBook to MacOS and I have all my audio software residing on it. All installations went smoothly. Connect to server from my Mac Mini works flawlessly to my MacBook. Couldn‘t be happier. Glad to leave the Linux hassle behind. And btw: after doing @Jud‘s fitness program :grinning: by rushing one flight up with my SSD in my hands, I changed album artist sort in MusicBrainz Picard and the changes werde not recognised by my MacBook running Ubuntu Audirvana. Guess what, after switching my MacBook back to MacOS, voilá the file was properly sorted the way I wanted.

Maybe not so good for my fitness when there‘s on need to climb up one flight :grinning:.

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While regretting that you had to go through the hassle, it was quite entertaining to read about. :wink:

But glad that everything is now back in order. :+1: