Metadata handling explanation

Is there a good explanation of how Origin handles metadata? I’m currently ripping a moderately large CD collection via Apple Music/iTunes to a library stored on a NAS. I have Origin pointed at the library folder on the NAS.

It updates as new material is added, but doesn’t always show album artwork. It also seems to ‘enhance’ the metadata compared with what’s shown in Apple Music (e.g. shows composer dates, production year). Not sure if that’s because the data is already there in the iTunes library, but not displayed in Apple Music, or if it’s because Origin does some additional look ups somewhere.

Either way, an overview of how Origin handles metadata would be very helpful. (As would any tips for improving the process I described above.)

Thanks!

Hi @stephent,

In the case of metadata, we read everything that is embedded inside the file itself. But in the case of album artwork, iTunes tends to not add them inside the tracks. You can see this if you use a different metadata editor like Musicbrainz.

To fix this, you can manually add the album artwork inside the folder of the album concerned and Audirvāna Origin will see it for all the tracks in it.

Thanks @Antoine. I’ll try to learn more about metadata editing and embedding - seems that’s a whole world unto itself. I’m familiar with how it works with image files, but not so much for audio.

One follow-up question: should it be possible to drag and drop artwork onto an Album in Origin? I had it working for 3 or 4 albums, but now every time I try it, the app hangs indefinitely.

Can you please send a screenshot when you do the drag & drop in the app?

@Antoine Here’s a link to a screen capture video: it doesn’t show the mouse cursor change to SBOD after I drop the artwork. I have to force quit and restart to recover (on reboot, the new artwork is not there).

Debug info:

Audirvana Origin 2.5.9 (20509)

macOS 13.5.1 with 32GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Stephen Trainor

NETWORK
	Status: available

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

	Polarity Inversion:
		Globally: OFF
		Per track: ON
	Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
	r8brain with 2x upsampling
	r8brain filter parameters
	Bandwidth = 99.5%
	Stop band attenuation 218dB
	Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
	Max allowed volume: 100
	Replay Gain: None
	SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
	Sync list: 2 folders
		AUTO: /Volumes/music-1/iTunes
		AUTO: /Volumes/music/dBpoweramp
	iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
	Library database path: /Users/stephen/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Folders synchronization in progress:
	/Volumes/music-1/iTunes
	Deep Synch: yes
	Intializing

Remote Control server:
	Listening on 127.0.0.1 on port 56756

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================


Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 29696MB

Local Audio Engine: CoreAudio
	Exclusive access: ON
	Integer mode: ON
	Use max I/O buffer size: ON
	Actual I/O buffer frame size: 512

Preferred device: 
	CA CA DacMagic 200M 2.0 
	Model UID:CA DacMagic 200M 2.0:22E8:DAC2
	UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:CA:CA DacMagic 200M 2.0:5300000:1

Active Sample Rate: 96kHz
Hog Mode is off

Bridge settings:
	Sample rate limitation: none
	Sample rate switching latency: none
	Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
	Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:MacBook Pro Speakers
	Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
	Model name: Apple Inc. MacBook Pro Speakers
	Model UID: Speaker
	UID: BuiltInSpeakerDevice
	ID 0x45 

4 available sample rates up to 96000Hz
	44100
	48000
	88200
	96000
Audio buffer frame size : 29 to 4096 frames
Current I/O buffer frame size : 512

Volume Control
	Physical: Yes
	Virtual: Yes
	Max volume alert: Enabled

MQA capability
	Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
	Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled

Device audio channels
	Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2
	Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
		Channel 0 mapped to 0
		Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
	Number of channels: 2
	Use as stereo device only: No
	Simple stereo device: Yes

1 output streams:
	Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
		Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
		Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x46 2 channels starting at 1
4 virtual formats:
	2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
	2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
	2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
	2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz

4 physical formats
	2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
	2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
	2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
	2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz

Local devices found : 4
	Device #0: ID 0x71 Studio Display Speakers
		Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
		Model UID: Studio Display Audio Control:05AC:1114
		UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:Apple Inc.:Studio Display:00008030-001A254826F0802E:8,9
		USB Vendor ID: 0x05ac
		USB Product ID: 0x1114
		Model name: Apple Inc. Studio Display Speakers
	Device #1: ID 0x5c CalDigit Thunderbolt 3 Audio
		Manufacturer: CalDigit, Inc.
		Model UID: CalDigit Thunderbolt 3 Audio:2188:6533
		UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:CalDigit, Inc.:CalDigit Thunderbolt 3 Audio:3200000:1
		USB Vendor ID: 0x2188
		USB Product ID: 0x6533
		Model name: CalDigit, Inc. CalDigit Thunderbolt 3 Audio
	Device #2: ID 0x45 MacBook Pro Speakers
		Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
		Model UID: Speaker
		UID: BuiltInSpeakerDevice
		Model name: Apple Inc. MacBook Pro Speakers
	Device #3: ID 0x52 Microsoft Teams Audio
		Manufacturer: Microsoft Corp.
		Model UID: MSLoopbackDriverDevice_ModelUID
		UID: MSLoopbackDriverDevice_UID
		Model name: Microsoft Corp. Microsoft Teams Audio

UPnP


UPnP devices found : 1
	Device #0: ID 0x0 : Mu-so Qb 0539
		UID: uuid:3165e780-d78d-49d6-a524-ad9fac5bb3f8
		Location: http://192.168.1.203:46442/3165e780-d78d-49d6-a524-ad9fac5bb3f8.xml
		Manufacturer: Naim Audio
		Model name: Mu-so Qb



Chromecast


Chromecast devices found : 1
	Device #0: Mu-so Qb 0539
		ID: 34805c2d18450df0465822dfcef04750
		Model name: Mu-so Qb

Hi @stephent, I can’t see your video, can you send it at support@audirvana.com?