Problema al reproducir DSD via USB DAC

Gustavo · February 25, 2023, 6:01pm

Buenos días, tengo problemas al intentar reproducir archivos nativos DSD desde audirvana STUDIO a un DAC Topping E30II via USB, el computador es un DELL con windows 10, se actualizo el driver para USB desde el sitio de Topping, he intentado cambiando la configuracon de la entrada del DAC en audirvana a DSD 1.0 y 1.1 pero lo unico que se escucha es un his

el DAC me reporta que esta recibiendo un archivo DSD de 64, muestra la velocidad de 2.x mhz, pero solo se escucha el his.

agradezco su ayuda.

stefano_mbp · February 26, 2023, 11:08am

You set DoP for DSD, why not Native DSD? Your E30II can do native DSD

AndyLubke · February 26, 2023, 8:04pm

To post the debug info: go to settings\My account and click ‘debug info’. It can be that you get an error message, but ignore that.
After that make a new post in this thread, in that post right click with your mouse and choose ‘paste’. All the info about your system will now appear in that post.

Gustavo · February 26, 2023, 8:15pm

Hi, thanks for the help with the log…here the info…

Audirvana Studio 2.2.3 (20203)

Windows 10 (19045) with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Gustavo Cascante

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain custom frequencies
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: by album
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: D:
AUTO: E:
Library database path: C:\Users\gucas\AppData\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 192.168.100.147 on port 58278

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 5932MB

Local Audio Engine: WASAPI
Use max I/O buffer size: ON

Preferred device:
Speakers (TOPPING USB DAC)
Model UID:TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_8750&REV_0113&KS
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{9bb3ec44-ff8e-4b7b-b7ae-20609e4147e5}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Active Sample Rate: 44.1kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:Speakers (TOPPING USB DAC)
Manufacturer: Topping
Model name: E30 II
Model UID: TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_8750&REV_0113&KS
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{9bb3ec44-ff8e-4b7b-b7ae-20609e4147e5}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x152a
USB Product ID: 0x8750

10 available sample rates up to 768000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
705600
768000

Volume Control
Physical: Yes
Virtual: No

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 768kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 768kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 768kHz

Local devices found : 2
Device #0: Speakers (TOPPING USB DAC)
Manufacturer: Topping
Model UID: TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_8750&REV_0113&KS
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{9bb3ec44-ff8e-4b7b-b7ae-20609e4147e5}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x152a
USB Product ID: 0x8750
Model name: E30 II
Device #1: Speakers / Headphones (2- Realtek Audio)
Manufacturer: Realtek
Model UID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0256&SUBSYS_102807A0&REV_1000
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{e3ecf6d4-938f-45ef-ae89-b9f7b24af18d}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus

UPnP

UPnP devices found : 3
Device #0: Marantz SR5009
UID: uuid:5f9ec1b3-ff59-19bb-8530-000678242da8
Location: http://192.168.100.149:8080/description.xml
Manufacturer: Marantz
Model name: *SR5009
Device #1: BLU RAY SONY
UID: uuid:00000000-0000-1010-8000-94db5613322a
Location: http://192.168.100.148:52323/dmr.xml
Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
Model name: UBP-X800M2
Device #2: EShare-4299
UID: uuid:f1c39198-c6a3-a0bb-6694-dbd6d2c7a4a2
Location: http://192.168.100.210:1094/
Manufacturer: EShare Technology Corporation
Model name: AV Renderer Device

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

AndyLubke · February 26, 2023, 8:36pm

If you have installed the latest driver from the Topping site, you should have an ‘ASIO’ option as well. If you do not see the ASIO option then something went wrong with installing the driver (then try to install the driver again from the Topping site again. Make sure you have the correct driver for the correct type of DAC!!). Also make sure you have the settings correct in your Topping DAC menu (input setting USB etc.).

The settings below work for DSD with my Topping DAC (E30 first generation).

To be sure (only for troubleshooting) you could turn the upsampling with R8Brain completely off. Also do this for the Volume control in Audirvana.

I still think this is a bit strange, because DSD should work on the Topping with WASAPI and Kernel streaming to.

RunHomeSlow · February 26, 2023, 9:29pm

can’t just quote, have to write something.

AndyLubke · February 26, 2023, 9:46pm

I did not notice that. @Gustavo if you used WASAPI in your debug info, make sure you have DoP (DSD over PCM) configured to 1.1 in your Topping WASAPI settings in Audirvana. It seems it was off.

Gustavo · February 26, 2023, 10:06pm

Good afternoon, I appreciate all the recommendations of settings sent, I comment that I finally achieve that it will work
DSD file reproduction in native mode, first enable DSD OVER PCM option in 1.1, ensure recommendation of
Andylubke in the thread, I did a sound test, but I did not work, then activate the silencing option during the change
Sampling frequency (it seemed logical, so I changed it) and when trying again everything worked correctly.
The DSDs are reproducing perfectly and crystal clear.

and this is the final debug info…

Audirvana Studio 2.2.3 (20203)

Windows 10 (19045) with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Gustavo Cascante

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain custom frequencies
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: by album
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: D:
AUTO: E:
Library database path: C:\Users\gucas\AppData\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 192.168.100.147 on port 58278

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 5646MB

Local Audio Engine: WASAPI
Use max I/O buffer size: ON

Preferred device:
Speakers (TOPPING USB DAC)
Model UID:TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_8750&REV_0113&KS
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{9bb3ec44-ff8e-4b7b-b7ae-20609e4147e5}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Active Sample Rate: 44.1kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: ON

Selected device:Speakers (TOPPING USB DAC)
Manufacturer: Topping
Model name: E30 II
Model UID: TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_8750&REV_0113&KS
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{9bb3ec44-ff8e-4b7b-b7ae-20609e4147e5}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x152a
USB Product ID: 0x8750

10 available sample rates up to 768000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
705600
768000

Volume Control
Physical: Yes
Virtual: No

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: DSD via PCM 1.1

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 768kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 768kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 768kHz

Local devices found : 2
Device #0: Speakers (TOPPING USB DAC)
Manufacturer: Topping
Model UID: TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_8750&REV_0113&KS
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{9bb3ec44-ff8e-4b7b-b7ae-20609e4147e5}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x152a
USB Product ID: 0x8750
Model name: E30 II
Device #1: Speakers / Headphones (2- Realtek Audio)
Manufacturer: Realtek
Model UID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0256&SUBSYS_102807A0&REV_1000
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{e3ecf6d4-938f-45ef-ae89-b9f7b24af18d}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus

UPnP

UPnP devices found : 3
Device #0: Marantz SR5009
UID: uuid:5f9ec1b3-ff59-19bb-8530-000678242da8
Location: http://192.168.100.149:8080/description.xml
Manufacturer: Marantz
Model name: *SR5009
Device #1: BLU RAY SONY
UID: uuid:00000000-0000-1010-8000-94db5613322a
Location: http://192.168.100.148:52323/dmr.xml
Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
Model name: UBP-X800M2
Device #2: EShare-4299
UID: uuid:f1c39198-c6a3-a0bb-6694-dbd6d2c7a4a2
Location: http://192.168.100.210:1094/
Manufacturer: EShare Technology Corporation
Model name: AV Renderer Device

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

Thank you very much for your valuable help, have a nice rest of sunday…