Problems streaming 24bit

I am trying to stream from Audirvana Studio MACOS (Ventura) to an Advance Paris WTX-Streamtube streamer. With 16bit files everything goes smooth, however when trying to play 24bit files, the stream either stops afeter a few seconds or is not playing at all. Streaming 24bit via UPnP from other sources/software to the WTX streamer works without any problems. When streaming from Audirvana to other streamers there is also no issues. Audirvana and WTX seems to be a “toxic combination”.
I tried to change all settings in Audirvana for the WTX streamer, the only one working is to limit the stream to 16bit.

In light of your diagnosis I would contact Advance Paris and explain your issue and see if they have any history of the product working with Audirvana Studio. Does seem to be a compatibility issue in the UPnP implementations of AS and your streamer in light of your ability to stream from AS to other streamers OK. Their website has a link to contact support.

Thanks for your commemt. I have contacted Advance Paris service and will post the response here.

Two weeks have passed, but I have not received any feedback from Advance Paris.

Hi @eckardts,

Can you send us a copy of the “Debug Info” when you have this issue? You can get it in Audirvana Settings>My account

Note: By clicking on the Debug Info button, Audirvana automatically copies all its content, all you have to do is paste it in response to this message

Antoine, thanks for offering your support. I am currently traveling, but will sent later this week upon my return

Bonsoir Antoine,

here is the debug info, after I tried to play a 24bit, 96 kHz song.
Best regards,

Eckardt

Audirvana Studio 2.4.0 (20400)

macOS 13.5.2 with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Eckardt Günther

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: /Volumes/Multimedia/MusikServer
AUTO: /Volumes/Seagate Drive/Musik
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/eckismacmini/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Folders synchronization in progress:
/Volumes/Multimedia/MusikServer
Deep Synch: yes
Scanning 6784/9474: /Volumes/Multimedia/MusikServer/Olivia Newton-John/Physical

Local audio files fingerprinting
Tracks with no MBID: 20701

Remote Control server:
Listening on 127.0.0.1 on port 49608

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio
TIDAL: Connected as PREMIUM

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: UPnP

Preferred device: [UPnP] WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 Model UID:wiimu WTX-Stream_Tubes UID:uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7

Currently playing to UPnP device at 24 bits 48kHz
Selected device:WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2
Manufacturer: wiimu
Model name: WTX-Stream_Tubes
Model UID: wiimu WTX-Stream_Tubes
UID: uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7
UPnP device at http://192.168.178.76:49152/description.xml
ID 0x0

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

Volume control: Yes
Max volume alert: Enabled

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

UPnP set capabilities
Maximum PCM frequency set: 192000Hz
Maximum PCM bitdepth set: 24
Not native DSD capable
Avoid RAW PCM streams: No
Unwanted playback stop workaround: No

UPnP / DLNA supported protocols :
http-get::audio/wav:dlna.org_pn=lpcm
http-get:
:audio/x-wav:dlna.org_pn=lpcm
http-get::audio/mpeg:dlna.org_pn=mp3
http-get:
:audio/mpeg:dlna.org_pn=mp3x
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:dlna.org_pn=wmabase
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:dlna.org_pn=wmafull
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:dlna.org_pn=wmapro
http-get:
:audio/mpeg:dlna.org_pn=mp2_mps
http-get::audio/mp3:
http-get::audio/wma:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:dlna.org_pn=aac_adts
http-get:
:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:dlna.org_pn=aac_adts_320
http-get::audio/m4a:dlna.org_pn=aac_iso
http-get:
:audio/aac:dlna.org_pn=aac_iso
http-get::audio/ac3:dlna.org_pn=ac3
http-get:
:audio/ogg:*
http-get::audio/ape:
http-get::audio/x-ape:
http-get::audio/flac:
DLNA 1.5: Yes
Native Gapless playback: No
Universal Gapless playback active: No
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: No
Volume Control: dB
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x0 0 channels starting at 0
12 virtual formats:
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length

0 physical formats

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: PLAYING
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1

Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 00:03:56
CurrentURI: http://192.168.178.50:49152/audirvana/audio_f_0.wav
CurrentURIMetadata:

dc:titleDet kunne skjedd</dc:title>
dc:creatorKari Bremnes</dc:creator>
upnp:artistKari Bremnes</upnp:artist>
upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/qc/xz/bhcqeliolxzqc_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
upnp:albumDet vi har</upnp:album>
upnp:originalTrackNumber1</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://192.168.178.50:49152/audirvana/audio_f_0.wav

nextURI: 
nextURIMetadata: 
PlayMedium: THIRD-DLNA
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current transport actions:
Stop,Seek,X_DLNA_SeekTime,Pause

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 DMR-1.50 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 wiimu http://www.wiimu.com/ WiiMu LinkPlayer WiiMu LinkPlayer http://www.muzohifi.com/ uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7 V01-Mar 5 2021 00001 WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 FF31f0A7A59192D9C7A4C01C QPlay:2 image/png 48 48 24 /upnp/grender-48x48.png image/png 120 120 24 /upnp/grender-120x120.png image/jpeg 48 48 24 /upnp/grender-48x48.jpg image/jpeg 120 120 24 /upnp/grender-120x120.jpg urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /upnp/rendertransportSCPD.xml /upnp/control/rendertransport1 /upnp/event/rendertransport1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upnp/renderconnmgrSCPD.xml /upnp/control/renderconnmgr1 /upnp/event/renderconnmgr1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /upnp/rendercontrolSCPD.xml /upnp/control/rendercontrol1 /upnp/event/rendercontrol1 urn:schemas-wiimu-com:service:PlayQueue:1 urn:wiimu-com:serviceId:PlayQueue /upnp/PlayQueueSCPD.xml /upnp/control/PlayQueue1 /upnp/event/PlayQueue1 urn:schemas-tencent-com:service:QPlay:1 urn:tencent-com:serviceId:QPlay /upnp/QPlaySCPD.xml /upnp/control/QPlay1 /upnp/event/QPlay1

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 DMR-1.50 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 wiimu http://www.wiimu.com/ WiiMu LinkPlayer WiiMu LinkPlayer http://www.muzohifi.com/ uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7 V01-Mar 5 2021 00001 WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 FF31f0A7A59192D9C7A4C01C QPlay:2 image/png 48 48 24 /upnp/grender-48x48.png image/png 120 120 24 /upnp/grender-120x120.png image/jpeg 48 48 24 /upnp/grender-48x48.jpg image/jpeg 120 120 24 /upnp/grender-120x120.jpg urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /upnp/rendertransportSCPD.xml /upnp/control/rendertransport1 /upnp/event/rendertransport1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upnp/renderconnmgrSCPD.xml /upnp/control/renderconnmgr1 /upnp/event/renderconnmgr1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /upnp/rendercontrolSCPD.xml /upnp/control/rendercontrol1 /upnp/event/rendercontrol1 urn:schemas-wiimu-com:service:PlayQueue:1 urn:wiimu-com:serviceId:PlayQueue /upnp/PlayQueueSCPD.xml /upnp/control/PlayQueue1 /upnp/event/PlayQueue1 urn:schemas-tencent-com:service:QPlay:1 urn:tencent-com:serviceId:QPlay /upnp/QPlaySCPD.xml /upnp/control/QPlay1 /upnp/event/QPlay1

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x0 : WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2
UID: uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7
Location: http://192.168.178.76:49152/description.xml
Manufacturer: wiimu
Model name: WTX-Stream_Tubes

Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 13312MB

Local Audio Engine: CoreAudio
Actual I/O buffer frame size: 0

Local devices found : 6
Device #0: ID 0x72 DELL S3221QS
Manufacturer: DEL
Model UID: 10AC05D1-0000-0000-011F-010380462878
UID: 10AC05D1-0000-0000-011F-010380462878
Model name: DELL S3221QS
Device #1: ID 0x38 BlackHole 2ch
Manufacturer: Existential Audio Inc.
Model UID: BlackHole2ch_ModelUID
UID: BlackHole2ch_UID
Model name: Existential Audio Inc. BlackHole 2ch
Device #2: ID 0x6c Mac mini-Lautsprecher
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Model UID: Speaker
UID: BuiltInSpeakerDevice
Model name: Apple Inc. Mac mini-Lautsprecher
Device #3: ID 0x40 MMAudio Device
Manufacturer: MMAudio Device contributors
Model UID: MMAudioDeviceModelUID
UID: MMAudioDevice
Model name: MMAudio Device contributors MMAudio Device
Device #4: ID 0x46 MMAudio Device (UI Sounds)
Manufacturer: MMAudio Device contributors
Model UID: MMAudioDeviceModelUID_UISounds
UID: MMAudioDevice_UISounds
Model name: MMAudio Device contributors MMAudio Device (UI Sounds)
Device #5: ID 0x4a Omi Recorder Audio Driver
Manufacturer: Omi Software Studio Inc.
Model UID: OmiRecorderAudioDriver_Model_Proxy
UID: OmiRecorderAudioDriver_UID
Model name: Omi Software Studio Inc. Omi Recorder Audio Driver

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

… and here is, when playing a 16 bit song (its working!) as reference.

Regards
Eckardt

Audirvana Studio 2.4.0 (20400)

macOS 13.5.2 with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Eckardt Günther

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: /Volumes/Multimedia/MusikServer
AUTO: /Volumes/Seagate Drive/Musik
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/eckismacmini/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Local audio files fingerprinting
Tracks with no MBID: 20702

Remote Control server:
Listening on 127.0.0.1 on port 49608

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio
TIDAL: Connected as PREMIUM

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: UPnP

Preferred device: [UPnP] WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 Model UID:wiimu WTX-Stream_Tubes UID:uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7

Currently playing to UPnP device at 24 bits 44.1kHz
Selected device:WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2
Manufacturer: wiimu
Model name: WTX-Stream_Tubes
Model UID: wiimu WTX-Stream_Tubes
UID: uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7
UPnP device at http://192.168.178.76:49152/description.xml
ID 0x0

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

Volume control: Yes
Max volume alert: Enabled

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

UPnP set capabilities
Maximum PCM frequency set: 192000Hz
Maximum PCM bitdepth set: 24
Not native DSD capable
Avoid RAW PCM streams: No
Unwanted playback stop workaround: No

UPnP / DLNA supported protocols :
http-get::audio/wav:dlna.org_pn=lpcm
http-get:
:audio/x-wav:dlna.org_pn=lpcm
http-get::audio/mpeg:dlna.org_pn=mp3
http-get:
:audio/mpeg:dlna.org_pn=mp3x
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:dlna.org_pn=wmabase
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:dlna.org_pn=wmafull
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:dlna.org_pn=wmapro
http-get:
:audio/mpeg:dlna.org_pn=mp2_mps
http-get::audio/mp3:
http-get::audio/wma:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:dlna.org_pn=aac_adts
http-get:
:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:dlna.org_pn=aac_adts_320
http-get::audio/m4a:dlna.org_pn=aac_iso
http-get:
:audio/aac:dlna.org_pn=aac_iso
http-get::audio/ac3:dlna.org_pn=ac3
http-get:
:audio/ogg:*
http-get::audio/ape:
http-get::audio/x-ape:
http-get::audio/flac:
DLNA 1.5: Yes
Native Gapless playback: No
Universal Gapless playback active: No
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: No
Volume Control: dB
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x0 0 channels starting at 0
12 virtual formats:
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length

0 physical formats

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: PLAYING
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1

Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 00:05:21
CurrentURI: http://192.168.178.50:49152/audirvana/audio_f_1.wav
CurrentURIMetadata:

dc:titleOur Darkness</dc:title>
dc:creatorAnne Clark</dc:creator>
upnp:artistAnne Clark</upnp:artist>
upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/56/64/5099994756456_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
upnp:albumThe Very Best Of</upnp:album>
upnp:originalTrackNumber7</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://192.168.178.50:49152/audirvana/audio_f_1.wav

nextURI: 
nextURIMetadata: 
PlayMedium: THIRD-DLNA
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current transport actions:
Stop,Seek,X_DLNA_SeekTime,Pause

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 DMR-1.50 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 wiimu http://www.wiimu.com/ WiiMu LinkPlayer WiiMu LinkPlayer http://www.muzohifi.com/ uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7 V01-Mar 5 2021 00001 WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 FF31f0A7A59192D9C7A4C01C QPlay:2 image/png 48 48 24 /upnp/grender-48x48.png image/png 120 120 24 /upnp/grender-120x120.png image/jpeg 48 48 24 /upnp/grender-48x48.jpg image/jpeg 120 120 24 /upnp/grender-120x120.jpg urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /upnp/rendertransportSCPD.xml /upnp/control/rendertransport1 /upnp/event/rendertransport1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upnp/renderconnmgrSCPD.xml /upnp/control/renderconnmgr1 /upnp/event/renderconnmgr1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /upnp/rendercontrolSCPD.xml /upnp/control/rendercontrol1 /upnp/event/rendercontrol1 urn:schemas-wiimu-com:service:PlayQueue:1 urn:wiimu-com:serviceId:PlayQueue /upnp/PlayQueueSCPD.xml /upnp/control/PlayQueue1 /upnp/event/PlayQueue1 urn:schemas-tencent-com:service:QPlay:1 urn:tencent-com:serviceId:QPlay /upnp/QPlaySCPD.xml /upnp/control/QPlay1 /upnp/event/QPlay1

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 DMR-1.50 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 wiimu http://www.wiimu.com/ WiiMu LinkPlayer WiiMu LinkPlayer http://www.muzohifi.com/ uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7 V01-Mar 5 2021 00001 WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2 FF31f0A7A59192D9C7A4C01C QPlay:2 image/png 48 48 24 /upnp/grender-48x48.png image/png 120 120 24 /upnp/grender-120x120.png image/jpeg 48 48 24 /upnp/grender-48x48.jpg image/jpeg 120 120 24 /upnp/grender-120x120.jpg urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /upnp/rendertransportSCPD.xml /upnp/control/rendertransport1 /upnp/event/rendertransport1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /upnp/renderconnmgrSCPD.xml /upnp/control/renderconnmgr1 /upnp/event/renderconnmgr1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /upnp/rendercontrolSCPD.xml /upnp/control/rendercontrol1 /upnp/event/rendercontrol1 urn:schemas-wiimu-com:service:PlayQueue:1 urn:wiimu-com:serviceId:PlayQueue /upnp/PlayQueueSCPD.xml /upnp/control/PlayQueue1 /upnp/event/PlayQueue1 urn:schemas-tencent-com:service:QPlay:1 urn:tencent-com:serviceId:QPlay /upnp/QPlaySCPD.xml /upnp/control/QPlay1 /upnp/event/QPlay1

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x0 : WTX-Stream_Tubes_C8B2
UID: uuid:FF31f0A7-A591-92D9-C7A4-C01CFF31f0A7
Location: http://192.168.178.76:49152/description.xml
Manufacturer: wiimu
Model name: WTX-Stream_Tubes

Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 13312MB

Local Audio Engine: CoreAudio
Actual I/O buffer frame size: 0

Local devices found : 6
Device #0: ID 0x72 DELL S3221QS
Manufacturer: DEL
Model UID: 10AC05D1-0000-0000-011F-010380462878
UID: 10AC05D1-0000-0000-011F-010380462878
Model name: DELL S3221QS
Device #1: ID 0x38 BlackHole 2ch
Manufacturer: Existential Audio Inc.
Model UID: BlackHole2ch_ModelUID
UID: BlackHole2ch_UID
Model name: Existential Audio Inc. BlackHole 2ch
Device #2: ID 0x6c Mac mini-Lautsprecher
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Model UID: Speaker
UID: BuiltInSpeakerDevice
Model name: Apple Inc. Mac mini-Lautsprecher
Device #3: ID 0x40 MMAudio Device
Manufacturer: MMAudio Device contributors
Model UID: MMAudioDeviceModelUID
UID: MMAudioDevice
Model name: MMAudio Device contributors MMAudio Device
Device #4: ID 0x46 MMAudio Device (UI Sounds)
Manufacturer: MMAudio Device contributors
Model UID: MMAudioDeviceModelUID_UISounds
UID: MMAudioDevice_UISounds
Model name: MMAudio Device contributors MMAudio Device (UI Sounds)
Device #5: ID 0x4a Omi Recorder Audio Driver
Manufacturer: Omi Software Studio Inc.
Model UID: OmiRecorderAudioDriver_Model_Proxy
UID: OmiRecorderAudioDriver_UID
Model name: Omi Software Studio Inc. Omi Recorder Audio Driver

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

The Debug info suggests that both are sent as a 24bit stream. And that the 96khz is sent as 48khz. If you set Max sampling frequency to 48khz. Can you play a 24bit file?

Make sure your DAC is set as the output device in Audio MIDI Setup and set to the maximum sample-rate ( 24/192kHz)…

You have 6 local devices connected which includes Black Hole, and this configuration may be forcing clock master sample-rate conformity, as Black Hole competes with Audirvana for Core Audio control.

You might also like to lower your playback pre-load memory allocation to 6GB for best performance…

:notes: :eye: :headphones: :eye: :notes:

Hi Jacob, thanks for your contribution!
Actually, the 24bit file was not 96kHz file, but a 24/48 file. I noted that wrongly. Nevertheless limiting the DAC input to 48kHz does not do anything for the 24 bit files.

Hi Agoldnear,
also thanks for your thoughts.
The DAC is not directly connected to the computer, but is part of a streamer connected to the computer via the WLAN/LAN network. I can check on Black Hole however I would be wondering why a competition for core audio would depend on the bit rate.

After your clarification with @Jacob
Bit-depth will be set in Audio MIDI Setup or some least common denominator device bit-depth set in Black Hole…

Core Audio does not handle multiple bit-depths or sample-rates simultaneously. All devices need to handle a common file format.

If the track is 24/48 then it matches the Debug info and I didn’t say anything :wink: Then there is no point in testing.

If you upsample the 16/44.1 to 48kHz, does that still work? And to 88.1 and 96?

And it concerns local, Qobuz and Tidal 24bit files. These all have the same effect?

Avoid RAW PCM streams: No

No effect with this setting either?

In the meantime I am quite sure that the problem sits with Audirvana:
Today I was playing though “Volumio” for a change. When playing 16 bit everything was OK. When playing 24 bit again, Audirvana indicator stopped playing after couple of seconds, although Volumio kept on playing and Volumio indicator showed that it kept playing.
After that happened I could not get Audirvana to play with Volumio anymore. No matter if 16bit or 24 bit. So I tried to play Volumio from mConnect or BubbleUPnP from my phone. No problem at all!
I had to reboot Volumio to be able to play from Audirvana again.
Finnally, I was streaming from Audirvana via “ifi ZEN Stream”, and no problems occurred at all!
Sorry guys , but I just want to listen to music, and things need to be either running smoothly (as with ifi) or at least the software needs to tell me what is wrong.
I do not want to act as a system tester.
Thanks for any enlightening when finding out what is wrong!
Eckardt
P.S: Volumio is using Allo Boss DAC, so no problems with 24 bits


Here is the Volumio Problem Debug Info:
Audirvana Studio 2.4.0 (20400)

macOS 13.5.2 with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Eckardt Günther

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: /Volumes/Multimedia/MusikServer
AUTO: /Volumes/Seagate Drive/Musik
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/eckismacmini/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Local audio files fingerprinting
Fingerprinting track 33778/49558 : /Volumes/Seagate Drive/Musik/MD CD Rip/Dr. Chesky’s Sensational, Fantastic, and/17 This Little Light Of Mine.aif

Remote Control server:
Listening on 127.0.0.1 on port 53710

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio
TIDAL: Connected as PREMIUM

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: UPnP

Preferred device: [UPnP] Streamer-UPnP/AV Model UID:JF Light Industries UpMPD UID:uuid:092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527

Currently playing to UPnP device at 24 bits 96kHz
Selected device:Streamer-UPnP/AV
Manufacturer: JF Light Industries
Model name: UpMPD
Model UID: JF Light Industries UpMPD
UID: uuid:092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527
UPnP device at http://192.168.178.66:49152/uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/description.xml
ID 0x0

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

Volume control: Yes
Max volume alert: Disabled

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

UPnP set capabilities
Maximum PCM frequency set: 192000Hz
Maximum PCM bitdepth set: 24
Maximum DSD rate set: DSD128
Avoid RAW PCM streams: No
Unwanted playback stop workaround: No

UPnP / DLNA supported protocols :
http-get::application/flac:
http-get::application/x-flac:
http-get::application/ogg:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::audio/aac:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/aif:
http-get::audio/aiff:
http-get::audio/dff:
http-get::audio/x-dff:
http-get::audio/dsd:
http-get::audio/x-dsd:
http-get::audio/dsf:
http-get::audio/x-dsf:
http-get::audio/m4a:
http-get::audio/x-m4a:
http-get::audio/matroska:
http-get::audio/x-matroska:
http-get::audio/mp1:
http-get::audio/mp3:
http-get::audio/mp4:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/x-mpeg:
http-get::audio/ogg:
http-get::audio/vorbis:
http-get::audio/x-ape:
http-get::audio/ape:
http-get::audio/x-monkeys-audio:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::audio/wave:
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:
http-get::audio/x-ogg:
http-get::audio/x-scpls:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis+ogg:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis:
http-get::audio/x-wavpack:
http-get::video/mp4:
DLNA 1.5: No
Native Gapless playback: Yes
Universal Gapless playback active: No
Missing events workaround: Yes
Can play native DSD: Yes
Volume Control: dB
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x0 0 channels starting at 0
14 virtual formats:
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 8 little endian Signed Integer 2822.4kHz finite length
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 8 little endian Signed Integer 5644.8kHz finite length

0 physical formats

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: PLAYING
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1

Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 0:04:46
CurrentURI: http://192.168.178.50:49152/audirvana/audio_f_15.wav
CurrentURIMetadata:

dc:titleDiamonds And Rust</dc:title>
dc:creatorJoan Baez</dc:creator>
upnp:artistJoan Baez</upnp:artist>
upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/nb/jo/j560qkx6cjonb_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
upnp:albumDiamonds & Rust</upnp:album>
upnp:originalTrackNumber1</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://192.168.178.50:49152/audirvana/audio_f_15.wav


nextURI: http://192.168.178.50:49152/audirvana/audio_f_17.wav
nextURIMetadata:

dc:titleFountain Of Sorrow</dc:title>
dc:creatorJoan Baez</dc:creator>
upnp:artistJoan Baez</upnp:artist>
upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/nb/jo/j560qkx6cjonb_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
upnp:albumDiamonds & Rust</upnp:album>
upnp:originalTrackNumber2</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://192.168.178.50:49152/audirvana/audio_f_17.wav


PlayMedium: HDD
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current transport actions:
Next,Previous,Pause,Stop,Seek

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 Streamer-UPnP/AV JF Light Industries https://framagit.org/medoc92 UPnP front-end to MPD UpMPD 42 https://framagit.org/medoc92/upmpdcli/code/ upmpdcli version 1.5.8 libupnpp 0.20.2 image/png 64 64 32 /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/icon.png /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/presentation.html uuid:092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1.xml /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1 /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1.xml /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1 /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1.xml /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1 /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 Streamer-UPnP/AV JF Light Industries https://framagit.org/medoc92 UPnP front-end to MPD UpMPD 42 https://framagit.org/medoc92/upmpdcli/code/ upmpdcli version 1.5.8 libupnpp 0.20.2 image/png 64 64 32 /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/icon.png /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/presentation.html uuid:092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1.xml /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1 /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1.xml /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1 /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1.xml /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1 /uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1

UPnP devices found : 2
Device #0: ID 0x0 : iFi stream
UID: uuid:e3291a51-8e91-b4f4-173e-7e7256a893f9
Location: http://192.168.178.35:49153/description.xml
Manufacturer: iFi audio
Model name: iFi audio
Device #1: ID 0x0 : Streamer-UPnP/AV
UID: uuid:092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527
Location: http://192.168.178.66:49152/uuid-092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527/description.xml
Manufacturer: JF Light Industries
Model name: UpMPD

Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 6006MB

Local Audio Engine: CoreAudio
Actual I/O buffer frame size: 0

Local devices found : 4
Device #0: ID 0x68 DELL S3221QS
Manufacturer: DEL
Model UID: 10AC05D1-0000-0000-011F-010380462878
UID: 10AC05D1-0000-0000-011F-010380462878
Model name: DELL S3221QS
Device #1: ID 0x37 BlackHole 2ch
Manufacturer: Existential Audio Inc.
Model UID: BlackHole2ch_ModelUID
UID: BlackHole2ch_UID
Model name: Existential Audio Inc. BlackHole 2ch
Device #2: ID 0x5a Mac mini-Lautsprecher
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Model UID: Speaker
UID: BuiltInSpeakerDevice
Model name: Apple Inc. Mac mini-Lautsprecher
Device #3: ID 0x61 Omi Recorder Audio Driver
Manufacturer: Omi Software Studio Inc.
Model UID: OmiRecorderAudioDriver_Model_Proxy
UID: OmiRecorderAudioDriver_UID
Model name: Omi Software Studio Inc. Omi Recorder Audio Driver

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

There is your answer… it is not Audirvana

Active method: UPnP

Preferred device: [UPnP] Streamer-UPnP/AV Model UID:JF Light Industries UpMPD UID:uuid:092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527

Currently playing to UPnP device at 24 bits 96kHz
Selected device:Streamer-UPnP/AV
Manufacturer: JF Light Industries
Model name: UpMPD
Model UID: JF Light Industries UpMPD
UID: uuid:092115d8-caa1-0961-baa3-dca6322b0527
UPnP device at http:
ID 0x0

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

:notes: :eye: :headphones: :eye: :notes:

That’s odd, can you go in the Audirvāna settings and in the My account section? You will see a button ‘Start Log Session’, click on it and then reproduce your issue. After you reproduced it, click on ‘Stop Log Session’ and then send me the log file you can find by clicking on the button ‘Open Log Folder’ at support@audirvana.com

I have been out for a couple of days and wanted to reproduce the problem today, with Log Session switched on. No problems to stream 24 bit via Volumio today!! The Problem with AP WTX Streamtubes remains.

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Hi @eckardts,

When you have your device selected in Audirvāna, can you enable those options and check if you still have your issue?

Hi Antoine,

sorry to say, but it does not work.
I made a log file for your information and will send it.

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