Sorting out the Meta data

Hi
I’m liking Audirvana and will probably swap from Roon ( even though they offered me half price to stay )

So I reviewing the metadata to make sure all is correct - I have had a few issues ( Yep, really ) and I don’t really know how to fix them

so, 1st example

I have a box etc of CDs (5 ) I have loaded them into Metadatics - an app for the I Mac - so each CD is 1 of etc - , all have the correct song and Artist info and Album title ( Young at heart - early hits of the 80s ) , you can load all of the set into the program and highlight them and it will tell you if any of the dats differs , which it doesn’t . So all good , but when I look at Audirvan is see the album listed twice .

Listing once has 5 Cds but Tracks 1 to 5 are on a separate listing

Both are identical and I don’t know what else to do…

and the second issue is I find the artwork and add it , but It just does not appear, no matter how many times I add it

Any ideas or thoughts would be most helpful

Thanks

Ray

Hi Ray,

My experience is that sometimes rescanning your local catalogue can do the trick. Regarding the artwork I have discovered that the size of the used files usually is the cause here. If you can upload a smaller file, than there’s more chance of success.

I use dBpoweramp by the way. Besides ripping it’s a great app for adjusting meta data as well. Afaik it is available for iMac so it could be an alternative.

Hi Amorak

I do use BDpoweamp and it’s great - for the newer stuff I’m more meticulous about the data, but some the older stuff is questionable . I am, however getting there, its a long experience but I have picked up some tips along the way

as far as the artwork is concerned 0 using something like Metadatics - is hit or miss if the artwork works ( so to speak ) I have found that its not enough if the picture is in the folder or that Metadatics has embedded it . I have noticed that if I drag the artwork from wherever and put it in the Album folder - then open the “INFO” and select the folder option - if I drag the picture to the ARTWOK icon on the info tab it works straight away …I hope I have explained that well

II have also noticed that even if there are 4 albums and it all looks perfect - the dates may differ from each one . It’s not a deal breaker just something else you need to know .

One last thing - I have. collection of 40 CDs and I have checked, checked, re checked and then rechecked and It still listing as 40 albums rather than 1 Album with 40 discs. I am at the point of removing the collection from Audivirna

cheers for your suggestion

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Hi @remixray1962

Could you post a screenshot of the metadata of the 5 files in question, alongside a screenshot of the titles that appear to be correct?
Also, and I shit you not, I’ve had albums separating randomly due to differing artwork associated with the individual files.
I use both DbPoweramp and MP3tag. Both work extremely well imo.

Hi Ironz
I’m working my way through my collection …and I have noticed the Majority of the problems ( And tis is a personal preference ) for example a 2 cd set may have Best of CD1 , then Best of CD2 - so it lists a 2 Albums, I prefer to have one album the listed as Disc1, then Disc 2 - makes the front end less cluttered , also I have noticed that some of my CD rips have comments and Audrivina don;'t like these either - so I remove them and it works

Its a long process - and I thought my data was in good order !

Ray

Afternoon Ray.

When I have a title that spans multiple discs, I locate them all within the same folder. I retag the filenames, prefixing the title with the disc number. This ensures that they’re located in the correct order.
I also tag the files with their correct disc number.
I’m sure you do the same, but a screenshot (from MP3tag) for reference:

This is the view in AS

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Hi Ironz
I went away for the weekend (Athens) so I had a break from all this Metata business, but now I’m back and facing the same issues

for example - below is listed as 2 Albums and I have no idea why - it’s so frustrating - any ideas ?

I have attached as many screen shots as possible and the Meta editor I use - Metadatics which is indicating all data I the same





Evening Ray.

Hope you had a lovely time in Athens.

Looking at the screenshot of the Metadatics info, I note that you don’t have a Disc Number assigned.

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It may not make a difference, but have you tried setting this to 1 of 1?

Maybe Audirvana doesn’t like that they are in 2 differents locations…

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Now THAT is a VERY good spot @RunHomeSlow :+1:

In my defence, my eyes aren’t what they used to be (and they were never that great anyway).

Yep, I’d remove the initial location with the 11 tracks, as they’re already in the second location.

Funny you stare at something so long - 2 different things look the same !

I have deleted , what appears to be a duplicate folder and now it looks OK
I have some missing stuff now that I’ve cleaned up and it’s vanished - but I’m working my way through the folders

Athens was good - I did the 10k ( 53 mins ! )

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Thanks for all your help - I’m sure there will be more questions !

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Cheers Ray.

Although to be honest I think @RunHomeSlow found the solution.

Good luck :+1:

Hello again

I’m sorry but I’m really struggling with this program and the way it Handles the Metadata - I want to understand what I need to do. I could just delete the duplications, but If I had to start from scratch ( like I did yesterday ) the deleted ones come back

so …same issue as before

I’ve fixed the Meta , and sometimes it works and sometimes is don’t

Don’t really want to spend the rest of my life ( I’m 62 ! ) on fixing this

One Album

Showing three times

So I fixed the meta ( Thought so … )

So now I have the 2 old Listings and the New correct one




I don’t mean to sound desperate but I just find it all a bit hit and miss…you could do one thing and it works, do the same next time and it don’t

Would appreciate any input

Thanks

Ray

When you check the file path in the first 2 pictures, you see that they start with volumes/…

Pretty sure they don’t play… ghost files

see here also:

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Hi

so as I understand some files are …

which looks correct and has a logical fit structure but I Also have duplicates

Which starts with "Volume/mainmusic/mainmusic/Sandra

which is in correct

But the all play

Surly a program such as this should not create duplicates ?

again, I can just delete them, but I don’t think this is how it should work
Thanks

ray

Nicest bug in Audirvana, not yet cured :person_facepalming:t2:
Release date of 1970 and under is a nice one too.

Hi @remixray1962,

When you made your changes in the Meta app, Audirvāna was opened?

To be Honest Antoine - I’m on the verge of giving up trying to get the Meta right, sometimes it works, sometimes not. There don’t seem to be any logic to its behaviour

I use a proper paid for Meta editor (Metadatics) everything is how it should , sometimes it works…but often leave me with 2 copies …

The community have been helpful and although I will purchase after my trial, I realise there is no quick fix and will do it piece meal

I have an fear that if fro some reason I have to re install I will loose changes

Thanks for your reply

and yes - Audriva is open - I need to see if the changes work , and I do a rescan - and…sometimes it works sometimes it don’t !