Studio upsampling with SMS 200 - freezes mid song or on switch

jtexel92677 · April 4, 2023, 8:48pm

Studio and SMS 200 and up-sampling - if I play local fine up-sampled, if i stream my audio freezes mid song or on switch

QUBOZ >AUDIRVANA>R8Brain2x>SMS200>Freeze
QUBOZ>AUDIRVANA>no upsample>sms-200>fine
Local>AUDIRVANA>R8Brain2x>SMS200>Fine

Generally if I reboot the sms 200 and thew computer I can get it playing again but then it just drops out.

Flying blind I have tried changing the config setting inside the sms 200 MDP/DNLA screen and increased the buffer from 4mb to 10MB and the buffer time from .5 to 2 seconds. Doesnt seem to have helped. Tried enabling universal upnp, no dice.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I truly enjoy the sound of R8Brain and would like to be able to use it without hassle.

Audirvana Studio 2.2.7 (20208)

Windows 11 (22621) with 16GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Jason Texel

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain with 2x upsampling
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase minimum phase

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 1 folders
AUTO: D:\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 172.16.0.102 on port 50522

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: UPnP

Preferred device: [UPnP] sMS-200-USB-UPnP/AV Model UID:JF Light Industries UpMPD UID:uuid:06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13

Selected device:sMS-200-USB-UPnP/AV
Manufacturer: JF Light Industries
Model name: UpMPD
Model UID: JF Light Industries UpMPD
UID: uuid:06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13
UPnP device at http://172.16.0.100:49152/uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/description.xml

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000

Volume control: Yes
Max volume alert: Disabled

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

UPnP set capabilities
Maximum PCM frequency set: 192000Hz
Maximum PCM bitdepth set: 24
Maximum DSD rate set: DSD128
Avoid RAW PCM streams: No

UPnP / DLNA supported protocols :
http-get::audio/l16:dlna.org_pn=lpcm
http-get::application/flac:*
http-get::application/x-flac:
http-get::application/ogg:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::audio/aac:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/aif:
http-get::audio/aiff:
http-get::audio/dff:
http-get::audio/x-dff:
http-get::audio/dsd:
http-get::audio/x-dsd:
http-get::audio/dsf:
http-get::audio/x-dsf:
http-get::audio/m4a:
http-get::audio/x-m4a:
http-get::audio/matroska:
http-get::audio/x-matroska:
http-get::audio/mp1:
http-get::audio/mp3:
http-get::audio/mp4:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/x-mpeg:
http-get::audio/ogg:
http-get::audio/vorbis:
http-get::audio/x-ape:
http-get::audio/ape:
http-get::audio/x-monkeys-audio:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::audio/wave:
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:
http-get::audio/x-ogg:
http-get::audio/x-scpls:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis+ogg:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis:
http-get::audio/x-wavpack:
http-get::video/mp4:
DLNA 1.5: No
Native Gapless playback: Yes
Universal Gapless playback active: No
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Volume Control: dB
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 48kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 96kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 192kHz finite length
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 2822.4kHz finite length
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 5644.8kHz finite length

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: PLAYING
CurrentTransportStatus: ERROR_OCCURRED
CurrentSpeed: 1

Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 0:03:09
CurrentURI: http://172.16.0.102:49152/audirvana/audio_7.wav
CurrentURIMetadata:

dc:titleCasseurs Flowters Infinity</dc:title>
dc:creatorOrelsan</dc:creator>
upnp:artistOrelsan</upnp:artist>
upnp:genreHip-Hop/Rap</upnp:genre>
upnp:albumArtURI http://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/4b/zb/m5c0m5x7bzb4b_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
upnp:albumCivilisation</upnp:album>
upnp:originalTrackNumber11</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://172.16.0.102:49152/audirvana/audio_7.wav

nextURI:
nextURIMetadata:
PlayMedium: HDD
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current transport actions:
Next,Previous,Pause,Stop,Seek

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 sMS-200-USB-UPnP/AV JF Light Industries https://framagit.org/medoc92 UPnP front-end to MPD UpMPD 42 https://framagit.org/medoc92/upmpdcli/code/ upmpdcli version 1.6.1 libupnpp 0.22.2 mpd 0.23.5 image/png 64 64 32 /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/icon.png uuid:06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1.xml /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1 /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1.xml /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1 /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1.xml /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1 /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 sMS-200-USB-UPnP/AV JF Light Industries https://framagit.org/medoc92 UPnP front-end to MPD UpMPD 42 https://framagit.org/medoc92/upmpdcli/code/ upmpdcli version 1.6.1 libupnpp 0.22.2 mpd 0.23.5 image/png 64 64 32 /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/icon.png uuid:06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1.xml /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1 /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-AVTransport-1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1.xml /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1 /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-RenderingControl-1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1.xml /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/ctl-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1 /uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/evt-urn-schemas-upnp-org-service-ConnectionManager-1

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: sMS-200-USB-UPnP/AV
UID: uuid:06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13
Location: http://172.16.0.100:49152/uuid-06d3c23b-4072-bfc5-aedb-02d407828e13/description.xml
Manufacturer: JF Light Industries
Model name: UpMPD

Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 6400MB

Local Audio Engine: KernelStreaming

Local devices found : 0

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

Thanks

Jason

Antoine · April 5, 2023, 7:52am

Hi @jtexel92677,

Can you send us your audirvana.log file at support@audirvana.com?

It can be in two different locations :
C:\Users[your login]\AppData\Local\Packages\Audirvana.Audirvana-[… id number that can vary]\LocalCache\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana
C:\Users[your login]\AppData\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana

to show AppData folder:

OffRode · April 6, 2023, 3:40pm

Something you could try is dropping the upsampling. You can use r8brain with the Custom option and simply set the rates to the same as the default. Another words 44.1 = 44.1 , 88.2 = 88.2 etc. this will allow you to use r8brain without upsampling.

My upnp playback has had issues with long tracks @ 24/192 dropping out so perhaps test with 24/96 and 16/44.1

Additional: Avoid RAW PCM streams: No
You have tried this set to yes?

jtexel92677 · April 9, 2023, 4:12pm

Sorry for the delay. It starting working ok for a couple day’s but now it is back to the same behavior. I tried emailing log file but it came back as a bounce.

I have attached the log file and debug info as link to download.

Thanks so much for your help, big fan.

Jason

Antoine · April 18, 2023, 9:52am

Hi @jtexel92677,

Have you tried to enable the option avoid RAW PCM stream? We have made an update of Audirvāna Studio last week, do you get the issue with it?

jtexel92677 · April 18, 2023, 10:25am

I have not tried that but I will.

It still does it on latest update.

Will report back about the behavior after enabling that option.

Thanks

Jason

jtexel92677 · April 18, 2023, 4:16pm

Hmm so it wont even play if I choose avaoid PCM stream. It seems to be something with audirvana and the sotm neo 200. When it freezes if i reset the mdp/dlna service on the Sotm Neo it will sometimes start working again.

Agoldnear · April 18, 2023, 10:25pm

What are you trying to up-sample and to what sample-rate (PCMxxx → PCMxxx or PCMxxx → DSDxxx)?
Are you using a router/switch? If so, try bypassing the router and connect the Ethernet signal from your computer directly to the Sotm box…

Also try increasing you playback buffer to 8GB

jtexel92677 · April 18, 2023, 10:48pm

Hey thanks for the response.

PCMxx usually power of 2 but limit at 192k. R8brain. No DSD.

I am testing the custom level with everything set to the same rate, so using r8brain filter but no up-sampling, no definitive result yet.

I am using a cradlepoint firewall. I could put my NUC on wifi and try that to try and rule out firewall. I lean toward not since I never seem to have to reboot it, but rebooting the sotm and audirvana will sometimes make it start playing again.

Playback buffer in Audrivana right? Not sotm, I dont think it has 8gb space anyways. Sorry just trying to be clear.

Thanks

Jason

Agoldnear · April 18, 2023, 11:09pm

Yes… the Audirvana playback buffer RAM allocation… Have you tried setting the bridge device settings in the DAC settings of Audirvana to 768kHz or No Limit?

EDIT:
I was looking at the SMS 200 specs… Does this Sotm box only support 192kHz? If so, set the bridge device max sample-rate to No Limit and see how that flys…

jtexel92677 · April 19, 2023, 12:32am

I was on no limit, I just changed to 192, will report back.

Mario87 · May 11, 2023, 4:53pm

I am having the same issue. What was the solution?

Thank you!

jtexel92677 · May 11, 2023, 5:10pm

Never found one.

My only slight workaround was to upgrade the flash card which maybe made it slightly faster. Then being very careful in Audirvana to not skip to the next song until it was done buffering the first. If I want to skip a song I need to browse manually to it and select it. It will still crash out after a few hours of play and everything will have to be reset but at least its semi workable.

Whilst f’ing around with all the crap my psu cable to the neo got damaged and ended up damaging the neo. It is with them now, I am going ot press them some about the issue once they get the unit working.

I will try and remember to update the thread once I hear something.

system · August 9, 2023, 5:10pm

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