Tidal in Audirvana and bursting

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21

Oops, sorry.

The only other idea I have is to try to find the same track in pure PCM (not MQA) through HDTracks or even Qobuz. Maybe it’s an MQA artifact.

22

For information only, the album AYAKO ISHIKAWA is not in MQA. And it doesn’t just happen in one song but in the whole album!
I also tried the second xmos driver and it still crashes. The album is 44.1khz so it’s not hi-res.

23

There is an Ayako Ishikawa album in Qobuz, but I can’t log in in Slovakia!

24

do you have an other device output to try to reproduce the issue? Do you have speakers in your computer?

25

Yes, I can listen to led tv via HDMI that I don’t use. I tried listening to it over TV and the popping is there too!

26

That’s a good news. Can you try to retrieve the same song from another source? Do you have a CD with this track? If yes, rip the CD and import it in Audirvana. Otherwise try to find it online from some retailer.

27

I only have it on Tidal.
I haven’t found the CD at any retailer yet

28

So I found other albums that burst. Another example is Celine Dion, power of love. I’m already unhappy about that. Please help!
I turned off the audio system and tried playing on the TV again via HDMI and it does it there too! So the mistake must be in Audirvana

29

You’ll find Celine Dion for sure. Try with that to see if the origin is the source file or the player (Audirvana).

30

I have that song in FLAC 16/44.1 ripped from a CD. Just tried with 2 different DACs. Absolutely no issues, and I listened through the whole song twice. You owe me, I’m not a Celine Dion fan. :wink:

31

Did you listen to this album from Tidal?

Screenshot_2020-05-05-22-08-21-435_com.aspiro.tidal
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32

My wife noticed today when I wasn’t home that she would burst in SSD albums while listening through Audirvana!

33

I didn’t try the second DAC because it does it even if I turn off the DAC and play the sound from the NUC via HDMI to the TV!

34

I was able to solve my crack problem. In signal processing and signal polarity I had both Invert globally and Invert for track whit INVERTPOLARITY comment.
I don’t know why I had it turned on before.
Can anyone explain to me why it is used in Audirvan?
I am glad that I can enjoy the music from Audirvana again

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35

The invert polarity setting is here to prevent having issue with track that have been reversed recorded. In this case the track have the comment INVERTPOLARITY in the track. Have you tried to just disable one of the two setting available?

36

I forbade both cracking stopped.
I haven’t tried it on my own.

37

I have the same problem, however in my case it happens on all non-mqa Tidal tracks, and the invert polarity disabling does not help. Same situation otherwise, as it only happens in Audirvana, whereas doesn’t happen in native Tidal App. MQA tracks are played with no problems…

38

Hello @navodarc,

Can you send me a copy of the “Debug Info”? You can get it in Audirvana Settings>General>Debug Info

Note: By clicking on the Debug Info Audirvana button automatically copies all its content, all you have to do is paste it in response to this message

39

We are discussing the same problem in different tread… Anyway, attaching the debug info

Audirvana Mac Version 3.5.34 (3564)
macOS 10.15.4 with 8192MB RAM

Registered to Radovan Čechvala

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: by track
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: /Volumes/My Book Duo/iTunes Media/HDtracks
AUTO: /Users/navodarc/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/navodarc/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

CoreAudio audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 512

Max. memory for audio buffers: 5120MB

Local Audio Engine:
Exclusive access: Enabled
Integer mode: Enabled

Preferred device:
R3PRO
Model UID:R3PRO:C502:0061
UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:HiBy:R3PRO:HiBy R3PRO:1

Active Sample Rate: 384kHz
Hog Mode is off

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:
Local audio device
ID 0x66 R3PRO Manufacturer:HiBy
Model UID:R3PRO:C502:0061 UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:HiBy:R3PRO:HiBy R3PRO:1

9 available sample rates up to 384000Hz
32000
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
Audio buffer frame size : 116 to 4096 frames
Current I/O buffer frame size : 512
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to MQA Renderer
DSD capability: DSD via PCM 1.1
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: Yes

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x67 2 channels starting at 1
36 virtual formats:
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 32kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz

54 physical formats
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz

Local devices found : 7
Device #0: ID 0x57 Built-in Output Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:129 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,2:0
Device #1: ID 0x66 R3PRO Manufacturer: HiBy Model UID: R3PRO:C502:0061 UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:HiBy:R3PRO:HiBy R3PRO:1
Device #2: ID 0x68 iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio Output Manufacturer: iFi (by AMR) Model UID: iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio:20B1:3008 UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:iFi (by AMR):iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio:00000000:1
Device #3: ID 0x44 Boom2Device Manufacturer: globaldelight Model UID: com_globaldelight_driver_Boom2Device:Boom2Device UID: Boom2Engine:0
Device #4: ID 0x31 BoomAudio Manufacturer: Global Delight Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Model UID: GDAudioDevice_ModelUID UID: GDAudioDevice_UID
Device #5: ID 0x39 Soundflower (2ch) Manufacturer: ma++ ingalls for Cycling '74 Model UID: com_cycling74_driver_SoundflowerDevice:Soundflower UID: SoundflowerEngine:0
Device #6: ID 0x2c Squirrels Audio Manufacturer: Squirrels LLC. Model UID: com.squirrels.SquirrelsLoopbackAudioDriver UID: com.squirrels.SquirrelsLoopbackAudioDriver.Device

UPnP devices found : 2
Device #0: ID 0x0 KD-55XF8096 UID: uuid:23456789-1234-1010-8000-702605F88A1C Location: http://192.168.100.9:52323/MediaRenderer.xml
Device #1: ID 0x0 Three UID: uuid:00000000-0000-1010-8000-8c579bdef6fc Location: http://192.168.100.165:54380/MediaRenderer_SRS-ZR5.xml