I have asked myself this question for long too. I have used a macmini, with Audirvana (wired to a NAS and QObuz), going into my Naim Dac V1 with a USB cable (the best input of this DAC) for about the last 8 years. I have been satisfied for years but always had this doubt about: would a streamer get me a better sound and why would it?
Like you, I have asked around in forums/fb, found people who had the same DAC as me, and loved it too, and went to an Auralic streamer (not really knowing why) … So I questionned them, I insisted … nobody was able to clearly tell me: YES the streamers works better, or NO it does not. NONE of them had a clear opinion that a dedicated streamer was better than a computer with Audirvana on it. All they could tell me was: a streamer may have a crappy application, a streamer can be better with an improved PS (no kidding), some streamers suck with gigantic libraries … Well I was back to my starting point (but i had a good laugh).
Took a practical approach and gave a chance to a new streamer made by Wattson Audio called Emerson. I was lucky enough the dealer lent me the Digital version (without a DAC) and the Analog version (DAC included) to compare: both resell for eur1500 each (for those who wonder). From the get go, I was not pleased with the idea of having my streamer and DAC in the same device (for reasons mentioned by someone in this forum - future proofing). So, I gave both devices a good chance, Emerson Digital feeding my Naim DAC (loooove), Emerson Analog feeding directly into my amp. Keep in mind the Analog streamer interfaces to its internal DAC via I2S protocol, and both are millimeters away from each other - no long USB cable. Also, remember both streamer and DAC are designed together, implemented in conjunction by the same engineers …
The short conclusion is:
Number 1: best sound quality: Emerson Analog (has a DAC inside)
Number 2: Second: macmini, audrivana, NAIM DAC
Number 3: lower sound quality (hey absolutely great, just the last of the 3): Emerson Digital into Naim DAC
I have since replaced my long loved macmini/Av/Naim DAC setup with the Emerson Analog (winner). 1 ethernet wire in, 2 RCA cables out, period! I have kept Audirvana as the UPNP player, Emerson’s app being ugly.
That has taught me a few things:, I am happy to share with this community
- dont trust people on forums: listen by yourself, in your room, with your music, with your system (speakers ,amp …)
- dont stick to your preconceived ideas: i changed my mind on acquiring an all-in device, only because it just sounded much better
- it’s not just about the device quality, itself, it’s about how it integrates to the rest of your system. It’s also about how it is implemented. In my case, i reckon the engineers have done a fantastic job at matching a quite classic DAC (it’s a cyrrus chip) with their streamer circuits together. They have put attention to power supply and to clocks too … Apple has not.
- USB is not the best of all DAC interfaces (as I thought). I2S is more stable, and separates power from musical message (unlike USB)
- I like this particular streamer better … but maybe i would not like another streamer (I was about to buy an Auralic)
- possibly my DAC was the limitation, or not the best match with the Emerson Digital.
Hope this helps.
I do highly recommend everyone gives a try to the Emerson: huge value for the money (streamer and DAC of both high quality and most importantly awesome implementation/integration) for just eur1500 !!! Hard to beat.
Maybe in X years I’ll come across a killer DAC and will go back to the macmini based setup… I do not close doors to any option, only listen to my ears.
off to challenging my cables now … it never ends
Disclaimer: this is not a post to oversell Emerson/Wattson Audio. It’s about my experience, the process. If you want to test the experience with Auralic or Cambridge or Lumin … enjoy it and keep an open mind!