Why is Disc#1 randomly shows up on album song list

Recently randomly Disc#1 will show up among the song list for a album. Sometime Disc#1 and Disc#2 show up. When they show up, the song order will be messed up. Very irritating. It’s not consistent. Sometime they are not there.

I am relative new to Audirvana, only been using it for about 6 months. Don’t encounter the issue at beginning. Could it be due to the Tidal connect that I added recently?

Thanks.

This is happening certainly because in the metadata for tracks allocated to Disk1 you will find the fields Disk number and total disks filled in with 1 and 1 (Disk 1 out of 1).
For the first tracks, most probably those fields are not filled in.

I did not notice this before a recent version was delivered (Cannot remember which one) but since that, this is systematic, and painful as you have to select all tracks and update those fields to make the thing clean.

Eric

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Thanks Eric. How do I do this? Can I do it in Audirvana Studio or other software is required?

Cheers

Hi,
That’s (almost) pretty simple…
You open an album and:
1- Select one of the tracks you showed at the the top of your list: track 2 for example.
2- Click on the rightmost icon in the top panel to open the metadata (The icon looks like a piece of paper and a pen).
3- In the window that pop up you should see Disk # and total disk: those fields are most probably empty for that track.
4- Now you can select ALL tracks of the disk and replace Disk # and Total Disk with the value 1.
5- Save your changes and you should see that all tracks are in the right order and Disk#1 has disappeared.

Eric

Thank you for the instruction. Yes that’s not difficult. I didn’t know that metadata edit function is right here with Audirvana :grinning:

One question: I see those albums not having this issue are having the Disk # and Total Disk fields blank. So is there any difference between setting both to 1 and both blank? Any advantage for 1 over the other?

Thanks again.

Hi @wstam

Setting all tracks to Disc 1, or leaving all tracks blank, will give the same result :+1:
You really only need to assign disc numbers when the CD in question has multiple discs.

Congrats wstam, you made it right!
And nothing to add to what Ironz said.

Eric

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Yes. Issue solved. Thanks Eric and Ironz… :+1:

Issue is not solved. This should not happen. Why should I have to manually correct this problem.

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@Gits
You have to manually correct this problem because the files were tagged incorrectly/incompletely to begin with, prior to Audirvana analysing them.
This is not the fault of Audirvana.

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In my opinion it is Audirvanas fault
This is tagging according to Mp3tag:

This is a tagging when cd is added an analyzed in Audirvana:

In Mp3tag there is no discnumber as you can see.
When added to Audirvana all tracks except track 15 is given discnumber 1 of 2.

Of course Mp3tag could be showing wrong information, but I doubt that.

So whos fault is it?

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I am new to Audirvana, have been only using it for about 6 months. For the 1st few months, I never saw the showing up of Disc#. Only last 2 or so months. It’s the same library. The only change is I added Tidal account to stream Tidal songs… Originally I thought that trigger the issue…

I cleaned up some album with the Disc# issue by blanking the disc info for those songs. It solved the problem. However after I terminated and re-run Audirvana, the same issue shows up for the same albums again. I checked the music files and the date show that they have been modified. So the save should have taken place. Not sure why the Disc# issue appears again. Looks like it’s from Audirvana’s cache.

After the re-run, I also notice that Audirvana is spending long time doing “analysing audio files”… the process started last night and it’s still on now, not done for close to 24 hr already… though my machine is not on for full past 24hrs.

Still have 30-40% to go. I am hoping that after the analysing process is completed, the cache will be updated and the Disc# will be gone for those albums…

I have done all the tagging in the past with JRiver Media Center and I haven’t seen this issue so far.
Is this option turned on or off with your Audirvana?

It’s on by default. Just learn of this setting… Is this the cause of this behaviour?

Maybe. It’s turned on here as well. But the description reads that Musicbrainz adds information to AS’s database without changing the original file itself.

Sounds to me why some information shows up in AS this way but does not do so with other music programs.

I have also MusicBrainz activated in Audirvana and MusicBrainz is adding theese faulty discnumber in Audirvanas database.

When i check the disc that I have added to Audirvana with Mp3tag, all files show no disc number.

Audirvana should check with MusicBrainz why MusicBrainz is corrupting the disc numbering in Audirvanas database.

It was even worse when AS launched. By default MusicBrainz was allowed by AS to change the files themselves as well destroying many people’s local files. Luckily I have a backup lying around which I was able to copy back. But not everyone was that lucky.

Thanks to all for this.
I now understand why I saw this problem more frequently than before. I thought that the tagging was initially corrupted and wrongly made by the source providing the albums.
I switched off the MusicBrainz option.

Cheers

Hello @Gits,

MusicBrainz is not corrupting anything, the analysis of your tracks found that some of your tracks have the Disc# missing and display it depending on what album Musicbrainz find.

I checked the record on Discogs and there are singel CD version a 2 CD version of the record. So the problem is that MusicBrainz picked the wrong record. The 2 CD version has 15 + 2 tracks. My record is the single CD version and have only 15 tracks. So why in the world would MusicBrainz pick the 2 CD verion.

And yes, I will disconnect MusicBrainz in Audirvana because it seems to be a unreliable source.