Yet another problem with playing file endings

dominicperry · December 26, 2019, 9:04pm

So, I’ve managed to find yet another problem with Audirvana playing Qobuz files.

Qobuz - Prince - Parade (Music from the Motion Picture Soundtrack…)
Track 5, ‘Girls and Boys’ is meant to segue in time straight into track 6 ‘Life can be so nice’. It doesn’t. The timing is completely messed up. You’ll have to listen to the CD to hear how it goes. The beat essentially continues from one track to the next. Streamed via Audirvana (or through Qobuz’s own app) it doesn’t. Not good.
There are several Prince albums which make use of either a continuous ~45 mins of music nominally split into songs, but actually one single uninterrupted piece of music (LoveSexy) or where some tracks connect to others (Parade, Sign ‘o’ the Times). I haven’t tried all of them yet. I don’t hold out much hope. These are 20/30 year old pieces of music which modern streaming is mangling. I’m not very impressed.

Audirvana Mac Version 3.5.29 (3559)
macOS 10.15.2 with 16384MB RAM

Registered to Dominic Perry

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: ON

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 0 folders
iTunes/Music library synchronization: last synchronized on Wed Aug 28 15:05:43 2019

Library database path: /Users/Dominic/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Hi-Fi Sublime+

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

CoreAudio audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 512

Max. memory for audio buffers: 4454MB

Local Audio Engine:
Exclusive access: Disabled
Integer mode: Disabled

Preferred device:
Universal Audio Thunderbolt
Model UID:com_uaudio_driver_UAD2System:Universal Audio Apollo
UID:com_uaudio_driver_UAD2AudioEngine:0

Active Sample Rate: 192kHz
Hog Mode is off

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: 192kHz
Sample rate switching latency: 0.5s
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: ON

Selected device:
Local audio device
ID 0x43 ADI-2 Pro (55670186) Manufacturer:RME
Model UID:ADI-2 Pro (55670186):2A39:3FD2 UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:RME:ADI-2 Pro (55670186):76FAF50D19B70C8:1,2

10 available sample rates up to 768000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
705600
768000
Audio buffer frame size : 58 to 4096 frames
Current I/O buffer frame size : 512
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: No
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: DSD via PCM 1.0
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: Yes
Simple stereo device: Yes

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x44 2 channels starting at 1
20 virtual formats:
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 768kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 705.6kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 768kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 705.6kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz

20 physical formats
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 768kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 705.6kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 768kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 705.6kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 384kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 352.8kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz

Local devices found : 4
Device #0: ID 0x35 Built-in Output Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:128 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,1:0
Device #1: ID 0x3f HDMI Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:128 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutputDP:0,1,0,1,0:0:{6904-27A1-01010101}
Device #2: ID 0x43 ADI-2 Pro (55670186) Manufacturer: RME Model UID: ADI-2 Pro (55670186):2A39:3FD2 UID: AppleUSBAudioEngine:RME:ADI-2 Pro (55670186):76FAF50D19B70C8:1,2
Device #3: ID 0x29 Pro Tools Aggregate I/O Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: com.Avid.ProToolsAnalogIOAggregateDevice UID: com.Avid.ProToolsAnalogIOAggregateDevice

UPnP devices found : 0

Antoine · December 30, 2019, 10:51am

Hello @dominicperry, i couldn’t reproduced your issue, how do you connect to your DAC? you are using a USB or your thunderbolt connection?

dominicperry · December 30, 2019, 9:46pm

Hi Damien.

I’m connecting with USB, direct to the RME ADI-2 PRO fs DAC.

I have another problem with re-ordering tracks in a playlist - I’ll try to be more specific in another post, but I end up with 10-15 seconds of playback - 5 seconds each of 2-3 buffered songs playing when they shouldn’t.

The whole buffering routine seems to be easily upset.

Dominic

Antoine · January 7, 2020, 10:13am

Why have you disabled those features? Can you enable it in your audio setting in Audirvana and run a test again?

dominicperry · January 11, 2020, 5:21pm

Damien,

I disabled Exclusive access because I wanted other programmes to be able to use the interface, and I disabled Integer mode because the ADI-Pro2 uses 32 bit float - although I have no idea if that’s what this feature relates to.
Anyway, I turned them both on again, and tried the test and it made no difference.
I also tried the native Qobuz application, and that also makes a mess of the two tracks running together, so that points to it being a fault with Qobuz streaming rather than Audirvana.
From what I have read elsewhere, this is an ongoing issue with streaming services and of particular concern to people who listen to a lot of classical music where track end/start is just a point in time on a continuous stream…

Dominic

system · December 22, 2022, 2:18pm

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