Audirvāna Studio et Cambridge audio

Bonjour Damien,
je suis très intéressé par Audirvana Studio. J’utilise le streamer Cambridge cxnv2 et Audirvana n’est pas complètement intégré dans ce streamer comme dans les autres (851N…). De ce fait il y a des dysfonctionnements comme la touche pause qui ne fonctionne pas en mode UPNP. Est ce que ce problème sera réglé avec Audirvana Studio car malgré de nombreuses demandes auprès du support Cambridge ils n’étaient pas décidés à intégrer complètement Audirvana à leurs streamers. Cela conditionnera forcément mon abonnement à Audirvana Studio.
Cordialement

I have an issue with the same device as well. It is shown as an output device, but after I have selected it, nothing happens when I start playing. I receive a message ‘Loading first track’ and then it pauses.

My French isn’t up to much …

I have a CXN v1 same issue , loading track then nothing

Non starter …

Bonjour, le problème vient de Cambridge qui n’a pas intégré Audirvana à ses streamers. Il faut solliciter le support Cambridge pour qu’ils voient le problème. Moi j’ai essayé en vain.

The issues was resolved in the meantime. It looks like I was still running Twonky Media Server. I have closed it and now I can stream to my CXN V2 without issues.

To docjlt: I will contact Cambridge anyhow to check their interest in integrating a tool that focuses on sound quality.

It shouldn’t be a matter of integration. CA devices support UPnP/DLNA and always have.

I run a DNLA server which my CXN plays happily. Audirvana 3.5 plays to the CXN happily

AS simply sees the CXN as a renderer but does not play to it. This is not a Cambridge Audio problem.

What operating system are you running , mine is Windows 10. I just disable all other server startups (ie no DLNA servers, no Roon server) and rebooted I still can’t get anything to play. I haven’t disabled SQL Server I doubt that should bother things .

It will play to my RPi running Ropieee XL in DLNA Mode

@Damien3

Now I translated …

Isn’t Audirvana Studio standard UPnP ? , why should 3.5 work but not AS

In the meantime I discovered that another issue may be at the cause of the problem I reported earlier:
when I open AS and I first select an album for playback from My Music>Albums, I encounter the issue that I reported earlier (so, it pauses after having sent the message ‘Loading first track’).
But I do not encounter this issue when I first select a Favourite from Qobuz nor with a Local album.
After I have been playing a Favourite from Qobuz or a Local album, I can select an album from My Music>Albums. Is this a bug?

The problem comes from Cambridge which has not integrated Audirvana into its streamers. Cambridge support must be contacted. The more of us there are, the more they will make an effort to solve the problem.

Audirvana 3.5 fonctionne bien avec mon Cambridge cxnv2, seulement la touche pause ne fonctionne pas elle est grisée. Est ce le cas aussi pour vous ?
Je suis sur Windows 10.
J’ai eu plusieurs retours de Cambridge, c’est eux même qui m’ont dit que leurs streamers n’avaient pas intégré Audirvana, que c’était réalisable mais que leurs ingénieurs étaient occupés sur d’autres choses et que ce n’était pas leur priorité.

Comme vous Audirvana joue parfaitement sur mon CXNV2, seule la touche pause n’est pas fonctionnelle en mode UPNP, elle est grisée. Elle fonctionne en Usb.
Sur AS j’ai des problèmes de lecture en usb et en upnp.
Je suis sur Windows 10. Leur Maj 1.1 n’a pas résolu les problèmes, elle en a même créé de nouveaux…!!
Le support Audirvana en retour à mes questions m’a indiqué connaître le problème qui est dû à la non intégration d’Audirvana dans leurs streamers mais qu’ils n’avaient pas le temps de s’en occuper.

As far as I am aware Audirvana is offers a standard UPnP Protocol , at least 3.5 did. So any renderer that supports UPnP should work with it.

It makes no sense to have a protocol that requires a specific hardware configuration

The CXN is recognized by Audirvana as a UPnP Device along with all its available sampling rates etc

This playback issue must be a software buig not a hardware shortfall and as such CA can do nothing about it.

Another UPnP renderer on my system works fine

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Preferred device: Cambridge Audio CXN Model UID:Cambridge Audio CXN UID:uuid:e7b2733c-e381-4797-865a-fa0ac01acfa9

Selected device:
UPnP device at http://192.168.0.139:8050/e7b2733c-e381-4797-865a-fa0ac01acfa9/description.xml
CXN
Manufacturer: Cambridge Audio
Model Name:
Model UID: Cambridge Audio CXN
UID: uuid:e7b2733c-e381-4797-865a-fa0ac01acfa9

8 available sample rates up to 5644800Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
2822400
5644800
Volume control: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get::audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3
http-get:
:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get::audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get:
:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAPRO
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMALSL
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:
http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/mp4:
http-get::audio/3gpp:
http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:
http-get::audio/m4a:
http-get::audio/x-m4a:
http-get::audio/aac:
http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:
http-get::audio/wave:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::audio/aiff:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::audio/ation/ogg:
http-get::audio/ogg:
http-get::audio/vorbis:
http-get::audio/x-vorbis:
http-get::audio/dff:
http-get::audio/x-dff:
http-get::audio/dsf:
http-get::audio/x-dsf:
http-get::audio/:*
DLNA 1.5: Yes
Gapless playback: Yes
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

UPnP implementation in Audirvana has been discussed many times as it generates many incompatibilities towards various hardware.
I’ve created a topic several weeks ago after more than a year trying to figure it out, to gather incompatibilities (back then it was for 3.5).

https://community.audirvana.com/t/a-dlna-in-compatibility-list/

Interestingly enough, while Damien’s statement was that it was all in the manufacturers’ hands, Audirvana Studio behaves differently with UPnP devices, which tends to show Audirvana might have a faulty implementation on its side.

A concise review thanks.

My issue is that Cambridge Audio hasn’t changed from 3.5 to AS but playback has stopped.

I have used my CXN from a JRiver Media Server for literally years using the CXN firmware. The only Firmware change recently was to add Tidal Connect (3 months ? ago). Since then perfect response.

I can connect using Audirvana 3.5, and it behaves normally. I try with Audirvana Studio I get nothing . The logical outcome is that if the hardware hasn’t changed the UPnP implementation in AS must be different to 3.5

Over to Audirvana. I can’t evaluate the product since I can’t even play it to my system

I am going to buy a CXN V2 next week. This is very bad news. Has there been no progress?

Simply no, I gave up at the end of the trial

The V2 is Roon Ready plus DNLA compatible

In this thread I read that in v2 disabling MQA could work fine. I have asked @jdt to see if he can expand the information. I hope this issue is a priority and will be fixed as soon as possible. I would not want to have to switch to Roon.

Out of interest cost apart why not , I have used Roon for 5 years , it is a superb piece of software albeit some people think it expensive . $120 a year ??.

Try it for a couple of months , you will find it hard to stop !!

I have v2 in my hands for a couple of days now and it has some bugs, but it is usable. For example when for some unknown reason it doesn’t start playback at the beginning of the session I open JRiver, play a track for a few seconds, close JRIver, open Audirvana Studio and it works. I have also disabled MQA in AS as indicated by another user. Disable or enable Roon compatibility in v2 as well as other parameters, don’t affect.