Audirvāna Studio Feedback

Interesting, although I see no mention of it in the Apple app store.

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My perspective is clear. I never said Audirvana is a virus.
But altering my private files without letting me know or without asking my permission is virus/malware like behaviour.
This is certainly not how a well behaving program like Audirvana should act. In the meantime I am stuck with around 4TB of altered music files. I use MusicBrainz Picard to edit my metadata, I certainly do not want another program to change that for me behind my back without knowing.

Edit:
Damien claimed in another post that the music tracks where NOT affected. This clearly is not true. Maybe it is a mistake on his part or a bug (or just plain misinfomation). Fact is that I trusted this information and now I am stuck with the unwanted results.

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Thank you for the good sense in this post. I agree with you about the r8brain upsampling: even my wife, who is tolerant of an audiophile, heard the difference immediately. But my DAC (the Holo May) is engineered, quite ingeniously on the level of phase-locked loops, for non-oversampling of the data. And with oversampling deactivated, the difference between 3.5 and AS was equally apparent, also to my wife. And r8brain upsampling 44.1 to 705.6 was acceptable, and my wife really liked it, but it was not as good as 44.1 ‘unprocessed’ to the Holo May. So, 1) I think if you own a Delta Sigma DAC, you really ought to try r8brain on Audirvana Studio as an endgame solution so far, ahead of other transports or servers. But 2) from my own experience it fails to compensate for whatever changes were made in the data processing and transmission between 3.5 and Studio, and this makes me suspect that at least in part, it is in fact a compensation for some skulduggery. Because I cannot imagine any excuse for a change that alters the unprocessed transmission. This alteration is depressingly audible on my DAC, which is not the most expensive, but is the most resolving yet measured. I remember when Damien in his manual–maybe version 1 or 2–actually commented that from his experience he saw no reason to upsample, when the only option he offered was iZotope SRC. Conclusion: Audirvana is no longer bit perfect.

P.S., I wish streaming did not exist. Musicians and engineers need to unionise globally and demand 90%+ of the profits from these streaming companies, to permit them the damage they do to their product.

AS keeps showing me the “info-screen” screen at every launch… do you have a similar behavior?.. and I muss the genre selection at Qobuz… this is bad :frowning:

I sympathise entirely with your predicament, and share it too, and I am disappointed by the whole affair, but for now, the point has been made and repeated by many.
Let’s hope Damien will do something about it in a new release, as shortly as humanly possible will do.

Follow the screen for once like 4 pages, then check case not showing again

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Until Damien (or someone else from the Audirvana team) does react in an honest and transparent way, I am afraid it will be repeated over and over again… :wink:

Open and transparent communication is of the essence here. But until now there is only a wall of silence.

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I agree, Audirvana’s team is deafeningly absent from this thread…

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As an avid user of A3.5 (running on an iMac), I thought I would add my feedback and thoughts on AS as follows:

  1. GUI - The GUI is better and more intuitive. There are a few quibbles such as font size and I would like to see my playlist under the left sidebar. I would also like the ability to make the mini-player smaller than present. But these issue are relatively minor and overall it looks more cool than A3.5.

  2. SQ - The sound is great, as it is under A3.5. I need more listening time to work out the differences between the two, but my initial impression is that the sound is more open and holographic compared to A3.5 (when listening with headphones). Although I’m not sure if this is just user enthusiasm for something new.

  3. Library management - This is where I have most concern. I mainly listen to classical music and most classical music comes with really messy and inconsistent tagging across both record labels and suppliers (I mainly purchase HD flac files). Accordingly, I have spent considerable time retagging my collection, and expect others have done so as well. So I take umbrage with AS for modifying my files without my permission. I am told that AS is only tagging each file with an ID to link it with further metadata from Musicbrainz which is stored separately in the AS database. Nevertheless, it beggars belief that AS did not stop to think that this would cause considerable anger amongst users. Furthermore, I have yet to see the results of this “analysis”. Perhaps this is work in progress?

  4. Subscription - I understand the direction. I imagine the current single lifetime subscription strategy is not sustainable. I am not against paying a monthly/annual subscription, but it really depends on the service AS intends to provide. Roon has created its own niche in the market with its multi room multi device streaming ability. What is AS providing? I do wonder. I suppose time will tell. In the meantime, I am somewhat underwhelmed on consideration that this is now a subscription-based product.

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I have used AS for some days,
then I have another opinions.

  1. According to the 1.1 release notes,
    they have reduced memory footprint of analysing audio files on macOS version.
    I think it’s necessary for Windows version too.

  2. Scrolling in the album page is sometimes broken.
    It seems to repeat zooming in and out the album info pane,
    which makes me unable to
    scroll to the bottom of the track list.

  3. As others says, they should explain
    about difference between what AS does in “analysing audio files”
    and what Damien said in the other thread.
    Also I think it important to have a option for opt out of this behaviour.

  4. I would like to scroll the album view
    (the page enumerating many album arts)
    with swiping it in a touch screen.

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Even if you post a lot of feedback here, the manager reads only what he wants to read and answers. Real Madrid.

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So far I can’t decide if AS is an upgrade or a sideways step. Different doesn’t necessarily mean better. The bugs that I have encountered are small but annoying non the less.

I find that smart playlists don’t always work as expected, using grouping as a filter in particular seems unreliable when adding a new album to an existing playlist despite it using the identical grouping term.

Choosing ‘contains’ for a filter seems to be the only method to get some smart playlists to work.

I am not a big fan of the floating box for playlists and metadata, but I have found the icons to dock the playlist box into the left or right of the main application window, I find this much better, ideal if you have a large screen.

Like many others I don’t like the way AS has interfered with my music collection without at least warning me first or preferably giving us a choice. Luckily I had everything backed up on multiple hard drives before installing AS so can relatively easily revert my collection back to how it was before should I decide not to continue with AS.

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Isn’t the point of open source, to make the code available for others to use?

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@Antoine Something that I have been hoping for but I don’t see it yet, when I am looking a list (be albums / playlist / track list) if I click on the item it will take me there but when I go back it always takes me to the top (beginning of the list) which is annoying because I have to scroll again and find my spot where I was, competitor app works fine on this matter, when I go back it takes me where I was, I hope Audirvana Studio can support this feature.

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Will you mind sharing the Remote App download URL?

Sadly did same… TuneBrowser (for active listening) and Roon for general now.

Feedback: just horrible UI, buggy, sounds worse and doesn’t warrant a 2 plus year wait for the next version. Wish this wasn’t true.

Really sorry Audirvana, for me at least, you’ve killed yourself. :frowning:

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There ist No URL !

Merde :blush:

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My bad, I though they shared the early build via apk. In the play store, I still see the older version.

Thanks for the tip that 2.5 still runs. I am definitely going to revisit that version, which is still on my machine, to make sound comparisons with 3.5, and distract from my sorrows about Studio.

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The code was available for various uses according to the license. What Damien hoped was to find some collaborators, but that did not happen in time. One use that was not permitted was to take part of the application and sell it closed source for profit as your own work.

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