Can audirvana stream original DSD file via DLNA

Hi, I am new to here.

I find the latest windows version does not recognize my newly bought Marantz NR1200 as a native DSD player, and it only stream DoP to it via DLNA.

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Preferred device: Marantz NR1200 Model UID:Marantz Marantz NR1200 UID:uuid:733841da-0b88-0cc7-15ba-2104cf0a7d6d

Selected device:

UPnP device at http://10.0.0.12:60006/upnp/desc/aios_device/aios_device.xml

Marantz NR1200 Manufacturer:Marantz

Model UID:Marantz Marantz NR1200 UID:uuid:733841da-0b88-0cc7-15ba-2104cf0a7d6d

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz

44100

48000

88200

96000

176400

192000

Volume control: No

MQA capability

Auto-detect MQA devices: No

Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA

DSD capability: Unhandled

Device audio channels

Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1

Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:

Channel 0 mapped to 0

Channel 1 mapped to 1

UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:

http-get::audio/mpeg:

http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:

http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:

http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:

http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:

http-get::audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:

http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:

http-get::audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:

http-get::audio/wav:

http-get::audio/mp3:

http-get::audio/flac:

http-get::audio/aac:

http-get::audio/m4a:

DLNA 1.5: No

Gapless playback: Yes

Missing events workaround: No

Can play native DSD: No

Number of channels: 2

Use as stereo device only: No

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I know DoP is still technically bitstream, but the problem is that my NR1200 only play original DSD file, otherwise it sounds like white noise.
I am wondering is there any way to stream DSD file in its original format with audirvana?

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Hello @tifusa, It is possible that Marantz is only making this capability available on their app. Have you contacted them regarding this?

Hi Damien, I tried a DLNA software suggested by @VoyagerDude who had the same issue with his Marantz device, and the software also streamed my dsd collection without any problem. Therefore, I think my Marantz device also supports the DLNA protocols such as

http-get: :audio/dsd:
http-get: :audio/x-dsd:
http-get: :audio/x-dsf:
http-get: :audio/x-dff:

I suggest a solution can be that Audirvana add a selection of DSD capability as stream in the original format as Raw DSD (MSB).
From a user who reported Audirvana streams stereo dsd to his receiver, his debug info says that Audirvana is capable to use the protocols mentioned above as long as the flag of native DSD playback is checked.

Compared to his debug info, I guess the capability issue with Marantz is caused by an error that Audirvana does not recognize Marantz devices as DLNA 1.5 devices.

FYI, his debug info is as follows:
https://community.audirvana.com/t/audirvana-dont-let-play-multichannel-in-upnp/7264/8

Preferred device: Mastering Room Model UID:Yamaha Corporation Mastering Room UID:uuid:9ab0c000-f668-11de-9976-00a0ded9d439

Selected device:
UPnP device at http://10.0.8.49:49154/MediaRenderer/desc.xml
ID 0x0 Mastering Room Manufacturer:Yamaha Corporation
Model UID:Yamaha Corporation Mastering Room UID:uuid:9ab0c000-f668-11de-9976-00a0ded9d439

6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
Volume control: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: No
Not a MQA device, user set to MQA Renderer
DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB)
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1
UPnP/DLNA supported protocols:
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=44100:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=44100:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=48000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=48000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=32000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=32000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=88200:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=88200:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=96000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=96000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=64000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=64000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=22050:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=22050:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=24000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=24000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=16000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=16000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=11025:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=11025:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=12000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=12000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16;channels=2;rate=8000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/L16;channels=1;rate=8000:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get: :audio/L16:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM
http-get:
:audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3
http-get: :audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL
http-get: :audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMDRM_WMABASE
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMDRM_WMAFULL
http-get: :audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS
http-get:
:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS_192
http-get: :audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ADTS_320
http-get:
:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO
http-get: :audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_192
http-get:
:audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_320
http-get: :audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO
http-get:
:audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_192
http-get: :audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=AAC_ISO_320
http-get:
:audio/x-ms-wma:*
http-get: :audio/vnd.dlna.adts:
http-get: :audio/x-flac:
http-get: :audio/x-mpeg:
http-get: :audio/x-aac:
http-get: :audio/x-mp3:
http-get: :audio/x-mp4:
http-get: :audio/x-mpg:
http-get: :audio/x-wav:
http-get: :audio/3gpp:
http-get: :audio/aacp:
http-get: :audio/aiff:
http-get: :audio/x-aiff:
http-get: :audio/flac:
http-get: :audio/mpeg:
http-get: :audio/aac:
http-get: :audio/m4a:
http-get: :audio/mp3:
http-get: :audio/mp4:
http-get: :audio/dsd:
http-get: :audio/x-dsd:
http-get: :audio/x-dsf:
http-get: :audio/x-dff:
http-get: :audio/wav:
DLNA 1.5: Yes
Gapless playback: Yes
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

@tifusa, the information you get in the debug info are directly from your DAC capability. The information you describe are from a different manufacturer on a different device as your Marantz. As i told you, did you contacted Marantz regarding this?

As I said, I believe this is an issue caused by Audirvana. I believe it is not caused by the maker restricting DSD playback to their official player, since I can stream DSD to my receiver without any problem using a variety of players, including the JRiver, another commercial software.
The reason why I quote the debug info from another maker is that I find the Audirvana has been capable to do what I am asking for here, and I believe the difference in debug info (Can play native DSD & DLNA 1.5) tells the reason why my Marantz does not work well with Audirvana, as Audirvana does not read this info correctly!
Based on my finding, I suggest an easy fix to this issue, which is just adding another choice in the DSD streaming method as original in addition to the DoP. I cannot understand why we don’t have the choice currently, but Audirvana is able to do so.

So any chance we will get the ability to send native DSD to a DLNA Renderer when Audirvana doesn’t detect that capability correctly like in the new crop of Marantz devices? @Damien3

Actually I contacted Marantz for this issue, and they replied that it is not caused by their implementation, but Audirvana’s fault, since DLNA is not fully supported by Audirvana, and their suggestion is using jriver instead.