Music Keeps Stopping

Use Audrivana Studio on windows 10.Use with HQPlayer enmbedded on different pc.Since the lsat two updates have issues with the music stopping ?

Hi @Jason_Pasosky,

We made an update today, can you please try to reproduce your issue with the 2.5.3 version of Studio ?

Just tried.Plays 3 or 4 songs then stops.And once music stops have to close studio and open again for music to play

Hi @Jason_Pasosky,

Can you send us a copy of the “Debug Info” when you have this issue? You can get it in Audirvana Settings>My account

Note: By clicking on the Debug Info button, Audirvana automatically copies all its content, all you have to do is paste it in response to this message

Audirvana Studio 2.5.3 (20503)

Windows 10 (19045) with 8GB physical RAM

Connected account of : JASON PASOSKY

NETWORK
Status: available
Available network interfaces:
Ethernet ({4d90043a-5541-4a95-a79c-a3d1159a7f13}) is private
Windows Defender Firewall status for this instance of Audirvana Studio
Active profile types: all
Private profile:
Firewall: enabled
Inbound: allowed
Outbound: allowed
Notifications: enabled
Public profile:
Firewall: enabled
Inbound: blocked
Outbound: allowed
Notifications: enabled

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
r8brain not in use
r8brain filter parameters
Bandwidth = 99.5%
Stop band attenuation 218dB
Phase linear

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 0 folders
Library database path: C:\Users\corve\AppData\Local\Packages\Audirvana.Audirvana-4118-9684-d80dbb7827cd_q3nymrkmej12j\LocalCache\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Local audio files fingerprinting
Tracks with no MBID: 3

Remote Control server:
Listening on 2604:3d09:ab8c:2f00:810e:638b:b039:53e8 on port 50443

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
Qobuz: Connected as Qobuz Studio

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: UPnP

Preferred device: [UPnP] HQPlayerEmbedded:SignalystHQPlayer4 Model UID:Rygel Developers Rygel UID:uuid:1258691a-c73c-4fae-b957-35b365ddec50

Currently playing to UPnP device at 32 bits 96kHz
Selected device:HQPlayerEmbedded:SignalystHQPlayer4
Manufacturer: Rygel Developers
Model name: Rygel
Model UID: Rygel Developers Rygel
UID: uuid:1258691a-c73c-4fae-b957-35b365ddec50
UPnP device at http://192.168.1.234:39365/1258691a-c73c-4fae-b957-35b365ddec50.xml

8 available sample rates up to 384000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000

Volume control: Yes
Max volume alert: Disabled

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Raw DSD (msb)

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

UPnP set capabilities
Maximum PCM frequency set: 384000Hz
Maximum PCM bitdepth set: 32
Maximum DSD rate set: DSD256
Avoid RAW PCM streams: No
Unwanted playback stop workaround: No

UPnP / DLNA supported protocols :
http-get::audio/flac:
http-get::audio/x-flac:
http-get::application/flac:
http-get::application/x-flac:
http-get::audio/wav:
http-get::audio/x-wav:
http-get::application/wav:
http-get::application/x-wav:
http-get::audio/aiff:
http-get::audio/x-aiff:
http-get::application/aiff:
http-get::application/x-aiff:
http-get::audio/x-dsf:
http-get::application/x-dsf:
http-get::audio/x-dff:
http-get::audio/x-dsdiff:
http-get::application/x-dff:
http-get::application/octet-stream:
http-get::audio/x-wv:
http-get::application/wv:
http-get::application/x-wv:
http-get::audio/mpeg:
http-get::audio/mp3:
http-get::audio/mpa:
http-get::audio/mpa-robust:
http-get::audio/x-mpeg-3:
http-get::application/mpeg:
http-get::application/mp3:
http-get::audio/ogg:
http-get::audio/vnd.wave:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=44100:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=48000:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=88200:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=96000:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=176400:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=192000:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=352800:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=384000:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=705600:
http-get::audio/l32;rate=768000:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=44100:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=48000:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=88200:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=96000:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=176400:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=192000:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=352800:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=384000:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=705600:
http-get::audio/l24;rate=768000:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=88200:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=96000:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=176400:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=192000:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=352800:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=384000:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=705600:
http-get::audio/l16;rate=768000:
http-get::audio/mpegurl:
http-get::audio/x-mpegurl:
http-get::video/mpegurl:
http-get::video/x-mpegurl:
DLNA 1.5: Yes
Native Gapless playback: Yes
Universal Gapless playback active: No
Missing events workaround: No
Can play native DSD: Yes
Volume Control: scalar
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 352.8kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 352.8kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 352.8kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 48kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 96kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 192kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 384kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian 384kHz finite length
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 384kHz finite length
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 2822.4kHz finite length
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 5644.8kHz finite length
2 ch DSD 8bit little endian in 8bit chunk 11289.6kHz finite length

Current device transportInfo:
CurrentTransportState: STOPPED
CurrentTransportStatus: OK
CurrentSpeed: 1

Current device MediaInfo:
NrTracks: 1
MediaDuration: 0:04:29.120
CurrentURI: http://192.168.1.81:49152/audirvana/audio_f_8.wav
CurrentURIMetadata:

dc:titleLost in the Fifties (feat. Little Big Town)</dc:title>
dc:creatorRonnie Milsap</dc:creator>
upnp:artistRonnie Milsap</upnp:artist>
upnp:genreCountry</upnp:genre>
upnp:albumArtURIhttp://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/4b/en/bh7vfqzr7en4b_600.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI>
upnp:albumThe Duets</upnp:album>
upnp:originalTrackNumber8</upnp:originalTrackNumber>
upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class>
http://192.168.1.81:49152/audirvana/audio_f_8.wav

nextURI: http://192.168.1.81:49152/audirvana/audio_f_10.wav
nextURIMetadata: <DIDL-Lite xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:upnp="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/upnp/" xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/" xmlns:dlna="urn:schemas-dlna-org:metadata-1-0/">
Every Little Whisper Steve Wariner Steve Wariner Country http://static.qobuz.com/images/covers/52/31/0094636493152_600.jpg The Hits Collection: Steve Wariner 5 object.item.audioItem.musicTrack http://192.168.1.81:49152/audirvana/audio_f_10.wav
PlayMedium: NETWORK
RecordMedium: NOT_IMPLEMENTED
WriteStatus: NOT_IMPLEMENTED

Current transport actions:
Play,Seek,X_DLNA_SeekTime

Current device AVT service description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 HQPlayerEmbedded:SignalystHQPlayer4 Rygel Developers http://www.rygel-project.org Rygel 0.38.3 http://www.rygel-project.org uuid:1258691a-c73c-4fae-b957-35b365ddec50 image/png 120 120 24 /LibRygelRenderer-120x120x24.png image/png 48 48 24 /LibRygelRenderer-48x48x24.png image/jpeg 120 120 24 /LibRygelRenderer-120x120x24.jpg image/jpeg 48 48 24 /LibRygelRenderer-48x48x24.jpg urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /xml/ConnectionManager.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelSinkConnectionManager /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelSinkConnectionManager urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /xml/AVTransport2.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelAVTransport /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelAVTransport urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /xml/RenderingControl2.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelRenderingControl /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelRenderingControl DMR-1.51

Current device RootDevice description:

<?xml version="1.0"?> 1 0 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1 HQPlayerEmbedded:SignalystHQPlayer4 Rygel Developers http://www.rygel-project.org Rygel 0.38.3 http://www.rygel-project.org uuid:1258691a-c73c-4fae-b957-35b365ddec50 image/png 120 120 24 /LibRygelRenderer-120x120x24.png image/png 48 48 24 /LibRygelRenderer-48x48x24.png image/jpeg 120 120 24 /LibRygelRenderer-120x120x24.jpg image/jpeg 48 48 24 /LibRygelRenderer-48x48x24.jpg urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:ConnectionManager /xml/ConnectionManager.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelSinkConnectionManager /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelSinkConnectionManager urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:AVTransport /xml/AVTransport2.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelAVTransport /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelAVTransport urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1 urn:upnp-org:serviceId:RenderingControl /xml/RenderingControl2.xml /Control/LibRygelRenderer/RygelRenderingControl /Event/LibRygelRenderer/RygelRenderingControl DMR-1.51

UPnP devices found : 3
Device #0: Home Theater Room
UID: uuid:9ab0c000-f668-11de-9976-70974196d4b6
Location: http://192.168.1.106:49154/MediaRenderer/desc.xml
Manufacturer: Yamaha Corporation
Model name: RX-A6A
Device #1: 280D
UID: uuid:5d276765-7fe7-454c-8cd3-2fba759058d4
Location: http://192.168.1.139:34549/5d276765-7fe7-454c-8cd3-2fba759058d4.xml
Manufacturer: Simaudio
Model name: MOON 280D
Device #2: HQPlayerEmbedded:SignalystHQPlayer4
UID: uuid:1258691a-c73c-4fae-b957-35b365ddec50
Location: http://192.168.1.234:39365/1258691a-c73c-4fae-b957-35b365ddec50.xml
Manufacturer: Rygel Developers
Model name: Rygel

Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 4096MB

Local Audio Engine: ASIO 0
Driver version 0
Use max I/O buffer size: ON

Local devices found : 0

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 1
Device #0: Bedroom speaker
ID: DnsSd#Google-Home-8491ccfa387a4d839e292025f29bc68d._googlecast._tcp.local#0
Model name: Google Home

I’d change this one to yes first

Perhaps give this a change to yes if you still have issues

No didnt work

Well if this issue has only appeared since the last update releases then I suppose it’s time for @Antoine

Seems like you’re pushing a 8gb system pretty hard, just a gut feeling.

Edit: roll back to 2.4

All Im doing with the Audrivana sending music to my HQPlayer PC.8gb of ram should be more then enough

What happens when you drop hqplayer out of the equation? I have no experience with it and Audirvāna together and haven’t seen many folks who use it with Audirvāna. All that aside, if it worked well before the latest update fiasco maybe Antoine needs to give it some attention.

Perhaps this firewall thread will be relevant:

:notes: :eye: :headphones: :eye: :notes:

Hello Jason,

I hope my message finds you well, and I hope you are enjoying music.

I am curious to know why and how you use HQPlayer with Audirvana. What input and output devices in HQP are you using, and what output device do you have (DAC)?

I used HQP for many years. I have mixed feelings towards it as I used to enjoy it for a while, and then I realized it colors the sound. For the last few months, here is my setup.

  • Widirvana Studio on Windows 11 streaming through both Qobuz and TIdal
  • Chord Mscaler is connected to the PC through USB.
  • Chord Dave to MSCALER

My desktop PC is clocked at 5.2 GHz—i7 with eight cores and 32GB of RAM. High speed is essential to keep the PCM signal smooth. My PC is running on its exclusive power supply for isolation purposes. Also, Mscaler and Chrod Dave run on their power supply.

I can hear around 20% of masked content in most albums. The music is freaking detailed and well-defined. My equipment never sounded that excellent before Audirvana. I listen to music every day and enjoy the experience. I have been an audiophile for more than 40 years.

Keep enjoying the music, and I hope you also share your experience.

Regards,

I have Audrivana on a windows intel nuc.Have HQPlayer embedded on another pc.Then I have a intel nuc that i use as a HQPlayer NAA which is connected by usb to my moon 280d.I prefer dsd and HQPlayer gives me by far the best sound.I have also tried with Roon which my dac is Roon ready and uses ethernet connection.I have my HQPlayer pc in a different room which does all the heavy lifting for upsampling to dsd.

Nice. I used to upsample to DSD using HQPlayer for a long time. I even bought a high-end workstation for that purpose. Then I realized the most neutral sound I got was just direct PCM to my DAC. i.e., the source without any changes.

My point is when you have slight noise in the original signal, upsampling to DSD helps. as the filter reduces the noise but at the same time eats a part of the signal. DSD sounded remarkable but not neutral.

I suggest you watch it and consider that the original signal may sound the best, but that will depend on the equipment and their configuration/connection.

Enjoy,
Imad

+1

Matt

In the process of up-sampling of PCM, there is no information of consequence beyond the Nyquist Fs of a PCM 16/44.14kHz signal (approximately 22kHz)… However the theoretical dynamic range is increased from 96db (16 bit) to 144db (24 bit) to 192dB (32 bit)… And no new information is created or removed from the file in the up-sampling algorithmic process

If the DAC is PCM-centric, thus using it’s inherent SDM, it will not reproduce DSD correctly because the SDM decimates DSD to PCM for output (DSD-Wide). (As is the case with the ESS DAC’s and many others…)

The idea that something like an ESS DAC passes a 16/44.14kHz signal without SDM processing is a myth… All PCMxxx passes through the SDM architecture… What you are hearing is the result of that SDM processing in concert with the DAC output circuitry… In the case of Chord DAC’s and M-Scaler this is a product of the DAVE algorithm… There is no un-fettered 1-bit PDM (DSD) signal path to output in Chord products…

I give up.And how did my post go from muic stopping to a discussion about pcm and dsd.Always hate this about forums when your post goes in all different directions then the orginal topic.Frustrating.

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Have you simplified your system to a basic local connection, without HQPlayer embedded?

You also have 50% or your available system RAM allocated for playback pre-load buffering… It looks like you have a complex UPnP network configuration of devices which demands a lot of CPU processing and is susceptible to issues with device to device protocol implementation…

What are you doing to narrow down the potentials for synchronization drop-outs along the network path?

:notes: :eye: :headphones: :eye: :notes:

I’m not really seeing much off topic around here (but I admit I have blocked users with irrelevant contributions long ago).
Basically you’re suffering from the same UPnP problem many people face, you will find tons of topics about it, I even started a list at some point. To make things simple, Audirvana started a new partnership program called “plāys with audirvana” and if your product is listed, it will ensure proper UPnP compatibility. If not, then it might not work well. I have a Yamaha WXC-50 (it’s a musiccast DAC), I bought it in 2018. It almost never worked properly (except for a few months around the first few iterations of Audirvana Studio, but nobody knows why). You ask Yamaha, they say Musiccast products aren’t made to work with Audirvana, you ask Audirvana they say Yamaha doesn’t have a proper UPnP implementation. Solution ? Nope. So I listen to music through UPnP, but I know it can stop at any moment. It’s lame and I’m stuck with my headphones and my USB DAC when I want to be serious with an album. Upsampling, raw pcm, whatever, I tried everything, it always end up in silence at some point.
They’re aware, they just don’t seem to be able to fix it without Yamaha’s input, and it seems Yamaha doesn’t care at all, so we’re stuck.

In the meantime, it works with Foobar but this is a different type of UPnP implementation, and this software looks like 1996.

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Not using Yamaha music cast.Audrivana on one pc playes to HQPlayer which goes to my dac which is connected to my Yamaha RX-A6A.Tried using mcconect and buble up upnp no issues.Only have issue with Audrivana