Short loud noise when changing tracks?

I’m having this issue when I play my playlist in shuffle and doesn’t happen with all tracks. It’s not even reproduceable, next time that track won’t do it and some other will. See here and sorry for the poor sound:

Setting are Kernel streaming, no VST processing, no upsampling, no volume levelling, volume control inactive. Volume on the dac is 100% and…

AV

Any ideas?

Only a WAG but perhaps try “ mute during sample rate change “ maybe add some time in “latency when changing sample rate “

Best luck with it

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What’s a WAG?? Wild arse guess? Never seen that one before :grin:

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Still having this problem… :cry:

I remember I had the same issue with some other player but then there was an option to force silence between tracks. I see Audirvana has no such options but maybe this is a clue to someone that might know what is going on?

You tested the two settings I had suggested to try out? No good?

How about you post your debug and we can get some more ideas perhaps?

Paging Mr @Agoldnear did i suggest the correct settings, any suggestions?

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@OffRode … This is where I’m at now… I posted a link to an iFi Audio Blog post regarding the sample-rate change “pop” in my original topic:

You think of any other settings he can try? No debug yet, he’s on windows as well

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@OffRode …Apparently using WASAPI can insert the silence with some players… it is described on line (6) in the blog post I have linked in my topic post… I have no clue if Audirvana implements this under WASAPI… this muting thing is random as I describe in my answer to my own post… The “pop” is not completely muted, but it can be inconsequential… it is not consistent and I don’t know what settings will improve… I’ve tried adding latency and it does not change the behavior with my DAC and macOS…

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I tried the mute option with 1 second latency and that didn’t work. I’ve tried with 2 seconds and the same happens.

It also appears to me that this doesn’t happen when there’s a change in sample rate, I’ve been looking at the displayed sample rate on Audirvana and the DAC front plate and the pops happen with no change…

I didn’t want to go for WASAPI as this and ASIO sound very similar to my previous player. It’s the Kernel Streaming that makes all the difference.

I’ll post a debug ASAP

Audirvana Origin 2.2.3 (20203)

Windows 11 (22621) with 24GB physical RAM

Connected account of : Renato Morais

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins NOT ACTIVE

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5%
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66%

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 90.1051
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: OFF

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: D:\Utilizador\Music\Classic V2
AUTO: D:\Utilizador\Music\Music
Library database path: C:\Users\morai\AppData\Local\Audirvana\Audirvana\AudirvanaDatabase.sqlite

Remote Control server:
Listening on 2a01:11:8910:1d70:7fc0:6f1d:8e07:1bc9 on port 55274

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Active method: Local

Max. memory for audio buffers: 23442MB

Local Audio Engine: KernelStreaming

Preferred device:
Speakers (DENAFRIPS USB DAC)
Model UID:TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_86EF&REV_0312&KS
UID:\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{8771b222-8511-4abd-b7f9-121413cdd1e6}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}

Currently playing in Integer Mode:
Device: 2ch 16bits Integer, 4 bytes per frame 44.1kHz

Active Sample Rate: 44.1kHz

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: 2s
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: ON

Selected device:Speakers (DENAFRIPS USB DAC)
Manufacturer: DENAFRIPS Co. Ltd.
Model name: DENAFRIPS USB Audio V3.12
Model UID: TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_86EF&REV_0312&KS
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{8771b222-8511-4abd-b7f9-121413cdd1e6}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x152a
USB Product ID: 0x86ef
Kernel Streaming capable

12 available sample rates up to 1536000Hz
44100
48000
88200
96000
176400
192000
352800
384000
705600
768000
1411200
1536000

Volume Control
Physical: Yes
Virtual: No

MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: No
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled

Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: No

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 768kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 1411.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 32bit little endian 1536kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 768kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 1411.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 24bit little endian aligned high in 32bit chunk 1536kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 44.1kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 48kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 88.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 96kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 176.4kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 192kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 352.8kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 384kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 705.6kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 768kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 1411.2kHz
2 ch Integer PCM 16bit little endian 1536kHz

Local devices found : 4
Device #0: Speakers (DENAFRIPS USB DAC)
Manufacturer: DENAFRIPS Co. Ltd.
Model UID: TUSBAUDIO_ENUM\VID_152A&PID_86EF&REV_0312&KS
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{8771b222-8511-4abd-b7f9-121413cdd1e6}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x152a
USB Product ID: 0x86ef
Model name: DENAFRIPS USB Audio V3.12
Device #1: Speakers (D10)
Manufacturer: Microsoft
Model UID: USB\VID_152A&PID_8750&REV_0102&MI_00
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{7b544242-5484-4648-9c71-b6e28812f702}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
USB Vendor ID: 0x152a
USB Product ID: 0x8750
Model name: D10
Device #2: LEN D27-20B (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Model UID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0080&SUBSYS_103C8338&REV_1001
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{3e7bfc0a-119c-4581-b377-bdb62c00c05e}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus
Device #3: LG TV (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Model UID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0080&SUBSYS_103C8338&REV_1001
UID: \?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{f7d2722d-037e-44fc-be0f-91bcda5c7d6c}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}
Model name: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus

UPnP

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: [LG] webOS TV UM7000PLA
UID: uuid:7cd8c15c-f862-d14b-42e0-bd52306bb652
Location: http://192.168.1.34:1704/
Manufacturer: LG Electronics.
Model name: LG TV

Chromecast

Chromecast devices found : 0

Move your audio buffer size down to between 4000 / 6000 mb and then run a new test. You have almost all of your ram tied up, shouldn’t need to be so large.

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What happen if put at 100?

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Good catch Mr

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Thanks guys, will try the buffer resize.

As to 100% volume, it acts just the same. In fact, it was at 100% until yesterday, when I changed it to see what happens.

Kutusov I have this exact same issue with Audirvana Studio. Disabling upsampling and enabling “ mute during sample rate change “ made no difference for me. This noise only happens using Kernel Streaming regardless of setting (extreme, high or standard) and appears to be random occurring on a track then next time not.
Only using WASAPI or ASIO eliminates this noise completely.

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Me too.

Good information, time to get this issue elevated onto @Antoine radar and troubleshoot it properly.

Well, suggestions didn’t help, it behaves the same.

To be honest, it sounds like an hiccup when changing tracks, like when it skips to the next, it lands on the middle of another track for half a second and then goes to the correct one.

I’m going to try ASIO to see if this happens with my system or not, like @Tuneman suggests.

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Yep, doesn’t happen at all with ASIO or WASAPI.

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Seems as if Origin and Studio are the same in this respect which makes sense.
I do believe they are working on this and that they are aware of it.

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