Streamer with Core Player

However, I’m coming back, because it’s important - you suggest GentooPlayer, it’s OK indeed. Except that it doesn’t work at all with Remote on the latest Android.

I’ve been pointing this out for a long time, but either it can’t be done, or it’s not important for Audirvana…

What does not work with the remote: GentooPlayer Web app or Audirvāna‘s remote?

I can‘t really judge as I am controlling both with my iPad and iPhone, so no experience with Android devices, I am afraid. Audirvāna‘s remote does work with iOS, but it has its quirks. If Android devices are not able of controlling Audirvāna, then it’s definitely a problem.

If you circumvent GentooPlayer altogether and do a straight installation via some Linux distro? Do you think you‘d have the same problems?

Perhaps AudioLinux might be better suited than GentooPlayer? Audirvāna runs perfectly fine under AudioLinux, though again, with iOS devices.

Remote does not connect to Linux Core - and only on the new Android. It works on Android 12. On iPad it works without any problem.

Unfortunately it’s the same with AudioLinux.

Not much I can say, I‘afraid, as I am an ‚iOS-er‘. But have you tried to install Audirvāna under, say, Ubuntu server, or Linux Mint? Would you see the same?

It works without a problem in Ubuntu - so it is clear that it can be done…

And that’s why I hoped that there was a streamer on the market that would have such a tweaked Linux on board that the Audirvana system (Core+Remote) would be stable.

Or maybe Audirvana will offer such a streamer?
Like Volumio or Presto; or will join WiiM?
There are some people on the market who would like to listen to music at rest instead of constantly experimenting. And they are even willing to pay for it :slight_smile:

I understand your point. All you can do is to wait till a streamer comes up on the audio market that uses Audirvāna internally.

Too bad that until shortly everyone was trying to sell their components as ,Roon ready‘. Perhaps at one point there will be a streamer that ‚Plays with Audirvāna‘ :grinning:.

I‘m still suprised that AudioLinux/Gentooplayer cause such problems in combination with Audirvāna.

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I couldn’t have said it better myself!

that would have such a tweaked Linux on board that the Audirvana system (Core+Remote) would be stable

You assume it is Linux, but it is far more a hardware/network/Audirvana core/Audirvana remote app interaction that causes issues.

That’s exactly what it’s about - to create a construct (hardware+software) in which all these elements would be in harmony and work stable.

When I approach the turntable, it doesn’t shake my nerves whether the table will start spinning or not and whether I will again have to take platter out and put it back in… I put the record on, press the button and listen.

Just that - and that is so much!

I think I’ve suggested stable options to you, or maybe it was someone else. But WiiM and BlueSound are like that. It is up to you to set your priorities.

For me, Audirvana Core works fine, with the occasional glitch, but as this forum shows that’s not the same for everyone. Even if a streamer would support this, it would be the same.

I tried WiiM - and it is indeed very stable, but somehow it sounds different than Audirvana. It’s hard for me to describe it, but after listening for a while I go back to Aydirvana. WiiM is probably some modification of Linux? So if we “threw” Audirvana into WiiM we would probably have a cool box?

It is a bit more complicated. The software of WiiM is the stable factor here, although it doesn’t sound as nearly as good as Audirvana. If you would throw Audirvana Software in a WiiM box, it would as quirky as it is now. Except, when Audirvana developers would only have to concern about one particular set of hardware instead of building software for several generic platforms, they could make Audirvana much more stable.

Regarding sound: Audirvana sounds more natural and live-like. Especially noticeable with acoustic instruments. Also, there’s more detail to be heard and big hits on a drum or piano are delivered with much more authority. That’s why most Audirvana users have accepted the software quirks of the package.

???… Audirvāna is a sub-routine of the platform operating system, it is not the operating system… WiiM is a proprietary interface vertically integrated/supported by the OS/hardware platform… @jmtennapel is correct in describing this very important synergistic relationship of software and hardware that directly relates to stability.

The comparative evidence is in the stability of Audirvāna on macOS and Windows platforms with locally attached DACs and library storage… How devices support UPnP protocol is the key… From my viewpoint, transmission via UPnP is at the mercy of how the device(s) handle the Audirvāna UPnP protocol signal transmission presented to them, among other system related influences.

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I’m going to take the long way around with my reply here, so please be patient with me. :slightly_smiling_face:

When I had a vegetable garden (I live in the desert now and haven’t gotten around to the preparations that I would need to do it right while minimizing water use), I did extensive preparation work that involved weeks of planning and about a week or two of hard manual labor. But I then had an organic garden with tremendously high yields that I only needed to fertilize once and weed twice during the entire growing season. So putting work into preparation allowed me to relax and enjoy the garden during the rest of the year.

The same with Audirvana Core on Linux. Yes, I had to learn some more about Linux and some other Linux software that I wanted to be part of my Audirvana playback system. But in return, I got a system that has given me a problem exactly once in all the time I’ve had Audirvana Core installed (which is the entire time it has been available). And that was the fault of other software, not Audirvana.

Additionally, when there was that single problem, I did not have to wait for a hardware vendor or software developer to fix it. Since I had done all the installation and had control of all the software, I could simply fix it myself once I had identified the issue.

So just like the garden, more work in advance (you buy the hardware and install the software yourself), but once that’s done, you have a beautifully stable system you can fix yourself in the rare event there might ever be an issue. Oh and BTW, my system sounds quite wonderful. :slightly_smiling_face:

If you decide this is the way you want to go, just ask - several people here, including me and others more knowledgeable than I am, are happy to help.

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Because you are using Audirvāna Core? Linux? Host platform? … If the interpretation is derived through the synergistic relationship of the system amalgamation, how do we quantify this subjective assertion “wonderful” ? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Exactly - I wrote about this earlier. And they could make money on it.
Like Volumio or Presto. It looks It’s not that difficult?

The developer of Nimitra has stated he is was developing a host platform around Audirvāna Core…

This will entail licensing, etc… So how many companies will go down this route is the salient question.
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OK - sure. So Audirvana Core is more stable - UPnP is not used.
And at the base of this dedicated hardware - it would be great!

I agree… this is why a Mac Mini M4 makes a lot of sense… When Audirvāna is in operation, the system exclusive nature of the software operations and bit-perfect performance, makes it a smart solution.

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I understand you perfectly, I completely agree.

Only I am a professional IT specialist. I keep professionally dig into automation software “guts” and often correct errors.

I’m also a hedonist so in the area of ​​my passion I would have a wish to simply buy a “perfect tbox” that works perfectly. This is such a little my dream :wink:

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