Best music streamer 100% compatible with Audirvana

Interesting comment about not necessarily having to chase higher resolution. My experience with HD audio is limited, so I will take it in consideration. Thanks

This post has gone in a very different direction than I expected!

Tell me if I’m in the right direction. After the research I have done in the past couple days, if I had my way, for a streamer I would probably buy the -ready made- Allo Digione Signature Player (SPDIF available) with a linear powersource. This seems to be the best cost/value solution, whatever player it is chosen.

Any thought about a compatible DAC available in the US?

I am in fact impressed with the position of the Khadas in the chart. I need to look into this.
Question - this is a DAC on its own, right? This is not a HAT board? for $100?
So all is needed is a case for the board?

I think we should forget about DIY. What do you think about this?

Streamer - Allo Digione Signature player with charger and battery pack…$334
DAC - Khadas TB…$100

I thins there’s a lot of value in this solution…if I undertsnad correctly the information

THANKS

As a follow up to my Peachtree story - no answer yet from the Peachtree team…but everything indicates that I can make a good improvement to my setup without a heavy investment. After all, my original idea was to buy the Bluesound Node2i for $550

Yes, it is on its own. Be aware that there are two versions, Generic and Vim Edition, the Generic is the one to consider.
Here you can find the case, don’t know if they ship to US,
https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/aluminium-boxes-cases/aluminum-case-for-khadas-tone-board-p-13626.html.
Another little/cheap very good dac is the Topping E30 (it comes already “dressed”), here the review
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-e30-dac-review.12119/

I think it is a very good choice, not very expensive but very effective about sound quality

If I would be you, instead of the 2 components and the hassle with battery’s I would stick with the blusound node 2i. One box, no SPDIF cable required, good control app and good sound quality.
I would not buy a 100 USD DAC, your Peachtree may be better.
If you want to step up the Sound qualitative ladder, you should consider an async. USB DAC, SPDIF only DACs are a “old” dying species.
The USB signal from the Allo USBridge Signature has the highest quality and is superior to the SPDIF version.
I use it with a Chord Mojo DAC (400 USD) which I can use as portable Headphone amp and as DAC in my stereo system.
Most cost effective solution and multiplayer usage.
Just my 2cents.

To get this setup to a very high sound quality I use 1st class cables: JCAT Signature USB cable - yes with this setup ( Allo USBridge & Mojo) you can hear the advantages of a 1000USD USB cable compared to say an Audioquest Carbon (200 USD).
From Mojo headphone out I use VH Audio 99,9999 pure silver cotton insulated wire in the VH Audio confitg as a 3,5mm Plug to RCA into my Anthem P5 amp, which has 350 Watt/8 Ohm into heavy modified high sensitivity Klipsch RF7 MKII.
For audio reproduction you need PRAT, and the base for this is power, or more power…

i have cxnv2. It doesn’t work well. Audirvana say it is down to how cambridge implemented comms :frowning:

Alex and All,

The Peachtree team got back to me with good news. My NOVA DAC max sampling capacity is 48Khz when using the USB input. They suggested that I use the optical out from the macbook. I have done it and I have success finally! I can play the FLAC files in my library and I see the higher 88-96Khz rate in the Audirvana display.

The problem now is only related to streaming from Tidal. I can not get any sound at all…

Any chance that you take a quick look at this? next here is the debug info…

Audirvana Mac Version 3.5.35 (3565)
macOS 10.11.6 with 4096MB RAM

Registered to JOSE BERMUDEZ

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins ACTIVE in realtime mode
	AU plugin #0: Effect - Voxengo Marvel GEQ ()
	AU plugin #1: None
	AU plugin #2: None
	AU plugin #3: None

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: ON

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: /Users/perro1965/Music/HDtracks
AUTO: /Users/perro1965/Music/THE AUDIOPHILIAC MA RECORDINGS SAMPLER
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/perro1965/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
HRA-Streaming: Login failed
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Direct Mode audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 512

Max. memory for audio buffers: 1056MB

Local Audio Engine:
Exclusive access: Enabled
Integer mode: Disabled

Preferred device:
USB Audio DAC
Model UID:USB Audio DAC :08BB:2704
UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:Burr-Brown from TI :USB Audio DAC :14100000:1

Active Sample Rate: 96kHz
Hog Mode is off

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:
Local audio device
ID 0x32 Built-in Output Manufacturer:Apple Inc.
Model UID:AppleHDA:82 UID:AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,1:0

5 available sample rates up to 96000Hz
32000
44100
48000
88200
96000
Audio buffer frame size : 29 to 4096 frames
Current I/O buffer frame size : 512
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: Yes

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x33 2 channels starting at 1
5 virtual formats:
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 32kHz

20 physical formats
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 32kHz

Local devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x32 Built-in Output Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:82 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,1:0

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x0 AQUOS UID: uuid:dbda0c3c-0a78-11e1-9713-24264235F40C Location: http://192.168.0.172:12345/mrd/

Have you tried to logout and login again?

I disconnected from Tidal and connected back, but it didn’t change anything. I’m not sure if this is what you mean. When I hit play I can hear some cracks coming out of the speakers.

I also tried streaming Tidal directly (not going through Audirvana) and it did work ok.

Thanks

Paste the dubug info again while playing through optical from Tidal.

This is the debug info while trying to play an MQA file using Audirvana

Audirvana Mac Version 3.5.35 (3565)
macOS 10.11.6 with 4096MB RAM

Registered to JOSE BERMUDEZ

SIGNAL PROCESSING:

Polarity Inversion:
	Globally: OFF
	Per track: ON
Effects plugins ACTIVE in realtime mode
	AU plugin #0: Effect - Voxengo Marvel GEQ ()
	AU plugin #1: None
	AU plugin #2: None
	AU plugin #3: None

UPSAMPLING:
SoX not in use
SoX filter parameters
Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5
Filter max length = 30000
Anti-aliasing = 100
Phase = 66

AUDIO VOLUME:
Max allowed volume: 100
Replay Gain: None
SW volume control: ON

LIBRARY SETTINGS:
Sync list: 2 folders
AUTO: /Users/perro1965/Music/HDtracks
AUTO: /Users/perro1965/Music/THE AUDIOPHILIAC MA RECORDINGS SAMPLER
iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized
Library database path: /Users/perro1965/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqlite

ACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES
HRA-Streaming: Login failed
TIDAL: Connected as HIFI

=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================

Direct Mode audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 512

Max. memory for audio buffers: 1056MB

Local Audio Engine:
Exclusive access: Enabled
Integer mode: Disabled

Preferred device:
USB Audio DAC
Model UID:USB Audio DAC :08BB:2704
UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:Burr-Brown from TI :USB Audio DAC :14100000:1

Currently playing in standard 32bit float mode
Device: 2ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Float, 8 bytes per frame 96kHz

Active Sample Rate: 96kHz
Hog Mode is on

Bridge settings:
Sample rate limitation: none
Sample rate switching latency: none
Limit bitdepth to 24bit: OFF
Mute during sample rate change: OFF

Selected device:
Local audio device
ID 0x32 Built-in Output Manufacturer:Apple Inc.
Model UID:AppleHDA:82 UID:AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,1:0

5 available sample rates up to 96000Hz
32000
44100
48000
88200
96000
Audio buffer frame size : 29 to 4096 frames
Current I/O buffer frame size : 512
Volume Control
Physical: No
Virtual: No
MQA capability
Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes
Not a MQA device, user set to not MQA
DSD capability: Unhandled
Device audio channels
Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2
Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout:
Channel 0 mapped to 0
Channel 1 mapped to 1

Audio channels in use
Number of channels: 2
Use as stereo device only: No
Simple stereo device: Yes

1 output streams:
Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s)
Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0
Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1

Stream ID 0x33 2 channels starting at 1
5 virtual formats:
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 32kHz

20 physical formats
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 20 little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 32kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 96kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 88.2kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 48kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 44.1kHz
2 ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32 little endian Signed Float 32kHz

Local devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x32 Built-in Output Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:82 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,1:0

UPnP devices found : 1
Device #0: ID 0x0 AQUOS UID: uuid:dbda0c3c-0a78-11e1-9713-24264235F40C Location: http://192.168.0.172:12345/mrd/

I just realized that the problem is only while trying to play MQA files. Non-MQA files are in fact playing

When I switch the settings to MQA decoder (instead of not MQA), I can hear the sound but it’s downsampled to 48Khz

That’s normal, since you’re telling Audirvana to pass the bit-perfect stream to the DAC that will perform the “decoding”.

This could be an issue with 24/96 resolution. Can you try with a local file in that resolution?

Yes. Local files are played ok in 24/96.

Try to disable the MQA autodetect and set to “non MQA” capable.

Still no sound coming out of the speakers. Only low noise “crack” sounds