I understand… Everything is evolving… 
If you are interested these protocols are on the roadmap, you will be able to use all of these with the Taiko Olympus AND the Taiko Extreme:
- UPNP
- Tidal connect
- Qobuz connect
- Airplay
- Chromecast
Not Audirvana Core…but Audirvana for Windows would be possible.
Years ago I asked him about this topic, he seems not to be interested
But he is open for questions, ask him on WBF, good luck 
I suppose that to be true… based on the premise described in the marketing rhetoric that they believe to have solved the Roon performance disparity that is intrinsically tied to the platform strengths and custom API’s… Quite a price to pay for that… 
It glaringly demonstrates the computational bloat of Roon that interferes with excellent sound quality production on an average playback platform, which puts that important attribute out of the financial realm of the average audiophile…
It’s using a modified 6 year old Windows 10 operating system, which is disappointing. The new model that supposedly succeeds/exceeds it, the Olympus, also uses Windows.
Why is that disappointing (to me)? Because if you’re going to be charging 28,000 euro for a server, it seems to me rather than having to start with Windows and strip it down, you’d want to start with Linux, which allows you to add only what you want - nothing to strip down, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and all that.
On the other hand, I’m not an audio equipment designer/manufacturer or a software developer, so it’s certain the Taiko folks know much more about this than I do. Still, the choice of Windows seems unusual.
@lwojtulewicz, another possibility is one of the Sonic Transporter series from Small Green Computer as a server, with one of the Rendu series streamers from Sonore, though I don’t know how the Transporters would compare to something like the Taiko. They use what they call the Sonicorbiter OS, a fork of Fedora Linux that I believe may have proprietary aspects. Edit: And I don’t know whether it is possible to have them install Audirvana Core for you, or whether you’d be able to update it once installed.
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I am also considering LINDEMANN WOODNOTE SOLO as a UPnP renderer, but I’m waiting for it to become more established among listeners.
And I’ll probably end up installing Studio Desktop on headless MacMini with clean macOS installed…
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Yeah, Roon… a lot of the rich customers of Taiko love Roon, so Taiko tried to fix it.
But this is only one of the reasons that it is so expensive. BTW, other manufacturers of servers like Antipodes Oladra, Pink Faun, Aurender etc. charge nearly the same for their top servers and Wadax is even more expensive than Taiko.
I understand your POV, but Emile Bok the developer of Taiko tried all available OSs, including Linux and found the stripped Windows the best sounding. Further he tries nearly all new motherboards. The tech in his new Olympus server is way ahead of the competitors (IMO). I know him, he hears like a bat.
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But I don’t! 
Very interesting device, thank you 
Another nice UPnP renderer seems to be the new Volumio Rivo+.
Same for me…
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The Lindemann’s Ethernet input speed is only 100mbps, not a lot these days. Don’t know if that’s at all significant in terms of the age of the components, for example.
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Agree, maybe it is optimised for wifi?
I understand the nature of the beast and the marketplace in which the Taiko boxes compete. I was pointing to the level of system design architecture and computational power leveraged, in order to bring Roon into the realm of Audirvāna running on something like an appropriately configured and implemented M4 Mac Mini or my M2 Max Mac Studio…
Don’t be confused in believing that a Mac Mini with Audirvana is on par with a Taiko running Roon but I look very much forward to the release of UPnP with Taiko servers. This can open up great possibilities for Taiko streamers as UPnP endpoints. I hope also that a Taiko endpoint is much less expensive than a Taiko server. They have also a very good sounding DAC board so they can easily release an UPnP endpoint with ethernet or wifi input and analog output. And then you can send your music from your Mac running Audirvana via UPnP to a Taiko endpoint with integrated DAC. That is purely my personal view of Taiko’s future.
No, it really doesn’t matter. The required data transfer speed for streaming audio is much lower.
And besides, I believe the most important thing is the scheme (design), resulting from the designer’s knowledge and experience.
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Whilst 100 mbps is sufficient even in the event of DSD512 or 768 pcm there is not a lot of headroom. Not putting a 1gbps Ethernet card which other high and low end manufacturers put in their newest streamers is somewhat crappy at this price. Get the point about paying for system integration though…. although having attended last years MHE and personally being underwhelmed by the manicured SQ of the high end systems I would need a healthy dose of confirmation bias in respect of price/performance to be happy.
Makes Apple look like an amateur in marking up prices for RAM and storage though, especially the Taiko equipment😳. Still the audiophile is the perfect market where myth and reality have very blurred boundaries. A bit like ladies and high end designer handbags!
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This is the crux of the matter.
Everyone knows it and yet we eagerly turn on every new expensive audio device…
It’s undoubtedly an interesting phenomenon.
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